Ot labour will get in

[Eternal Optimist]

Are you scared of 5G? Is climate change real? Was Enoch right? How many genders are there?

Away with your poor efforts to distract.

Why do you think we've been subjected to "Russia Bad" brainwashing for so long?

[UlleyMiller]

Away with your poor efforts to distract.

Why do you think we've been subjected to "Russia Bad" brainwashing for so long?

Nah, I'm not interested in that one, and you're clearly holding back what you know and the rest of us don't (for reasons I don't understand). I want to optimise my time by tapping into experts ad their knowledge. To many of us, it's difficult to break apart the silly conspiracy theories from the dark truth behind the Illuminati, NWO and so on. Here we are in the presence of someone who isn't easily fooled by the nonsense, so tell us, please, which are fact and which are fiction:

Is 5G a danger?
Is climate change real?
Was Enoch right?
How many genders are there?
Are royals lizards?
Who presses the buttons on Keir Starmer, and why?
Was 9/11 an inside job?
Which websites are truthful about migrant numbers?
Is Paul McCartney a replacement?

Stop being modest, we can revisit Russia and Rocky IV once we all have the foundations you have. Enlighten us. Allow us all to see behind the curtain so that we can discuss these things in a more progressive fashion, instead of everyone banging heads because of the brainwashing... that's obviously no good to you, we're holding you back. Give us the basics, and we can join in then and finally get why Russia is being pushed on us as the bad guy.

[Eternal Optimist]

...you're clearly holding back what you know and the rest of us don't (for reasons I don't understand)...

I tend to keep my mouth shut on subjects I don't understand, but I notice this minor detail won't hold you back.

As you won't engage in the subject matter, I'm out. Have a good 'un.

[UlleyMiller]

I tend to keep my mouth shut on subjects I don't understand, but I notice this minor detail won't hold you back.

As you won't engage in the subject matter, I'm out. Have a good 'un.

This is how you shut him up. Ask him to front up about the nonsense he alludes to instead of letting him play Poundland lawyer, cross-examining any view which challenges the absurd farts he repeats after watching Holmes, Christys, Farage, Pierce, Oliver, Grimes, and the other stains who couldn't hack real politics and media, so grift their way through life saying "what the man in the street thinks", despite the fact nobody capable of an actual thought would give them the time of day.

Next time he starts these brain farts, quiz him about climate change or 9/11. You're welcome.

[Eternal Optimist]

Keep watching the news.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

This is how you shut him up. Ask him to front up about the nonsense he alludes to instead of letting him play Poundland lawyer, cross-examining any view which challenges the absurd farts he repeats after watching Holmes, Christys, Farage, Pierce, Oliver, Grimes, and the other stains who couldn't hack real politics and media, so grift their way through life saying "what the man in the street thinks", despite the fact nobody capable of an actual thought would give them the time of day.

Next time he starts these brain farts, quiz him about climate change or 9/11. You're welcome.

So if we shouldn’t take any notice of Holmes, Christys, Farage, Pierce, Oliver, and Grimes, who in your humble opinion should we listen to?

[ragingpup]

Give this a read. It's interesting stuff.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and...sis-in-ukraine

Really interesting read that Howdy, thanks for the link.

Whilst Mearsheimer makes a very good argument for America's role in the build up to where we are in Ukraine, and how the EU and USA, under NATO, worked to encourage Ukraine to move towards NATO membership. However, where I think I'd question him is that ino, as a free nation, Ukraine has every right, as they stand now, to make it's own decisions regardless of how Russia might feel about it and if they enter into conversations with such countries and move towards NATO membership, isn't it their right, influenced or not by advances of the EU/America/NATO?

And following from that, if Russia then responds to Ukraine's movement towards NATO membership and effectively invades a free European country, shouldn't we see it as an such and support them, just as we would if they invaded any other country. Mearsheimer makes a good case for the history of the situation, and how this came to be, but I'm not convinced we should simply allow Russia to invade another European country, effectively leaving them completely as a Russian satellite country, without self determination?

No expert on this by any means, but trying to get head around what Mearsheimer is implying/saying on this. Be nice to have a convo about something, to try and get a fuller understanding of an issue, without all the insinuation that we're all victims of brain washing, just because we might have a different pov.

[ragingpup]

So if we shouldn’t take any notice of Holmes, Christys, Farage, Pierce, Oliver, and Grimes, who in your humble opinion should we listen to?

Ash Sarker.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Ash Sarker.

Is that a tree disease?

[ragingpup]

Is that a tree disease?