Another truth bomb

[islaydarkblue]

The universities in Scotland need students from other countries(england included) as they have to pay tuition fees that scottish dont and add to the budget of the university.Quite a lot of the academic staff are also from overseas.Maybe we dont have enough talented individuals in the uk I dont know.

It was Alex Salmond who put this millstone round the necks of the universities in Scotland when he stated that ‘hell would freeze over’ before he would charge tuition fees for Scottish students.
Now there are less places for Scottish residents attending universities in Scotland because they need to charge top dollar to students from outwith Scotland to balance their books.

[Deebunked]

It was Alex Salmond who put this millstone round the necks of the universities in Scotland when he stated that ‘hell would freeze over’ before he would charge tuition fees for Scottish students.
Now there are less places for Scottish residents attending universities in Scotland because they need to charge top dollar to students from outwith Scotland to balance their books.

That's a bare faced lie. I don't like Alex salmond or the SNP but there are more Scottish born and resident students attending Scottish universities than ever before.

Your post is just made up.

[Deeranged]

That's a bare faced lie. I don't like Alex salmond or the SNP but there are more Scottish born and resident students attending Scottish universities than ever before.

Your post is just made up.

It's very well known on here that Islay forms opinions based on his racist and misogynistic views then states them as facts. He will now trawl the internet looking for evidence to back this latest assertion whilst choosing to ignore anything that disproves it.

[Deebunked]

It's very well known on here that Islay forms opinions based on his racist and misogynistic views then states them as facts. He will now trawl the internet looking for evidence to back this latest assertion whilst choosing to ignore anything that disproves it.

Happy for him to trawl away, have the evidence right here in front of me.

[Returnofrros]

Lol Debunked the racist snob and now wannabe mass murderer.......I'll differentiate myself from that any day of the week.

[Returnofrros]

That's a bare faced lie. I don't like Alex salmond or the SNP but there are more Scottish born and resident students attending Scottish universities than ever before.

Your post is just made up.

But many can't get on the courses they want as they are behind the good guy overseas folk......still foreign good, shuffling hordes bad.

[BCram]

Happy for him to trawl away, have the evidence right here in front of me.

Hi Deebunked. Could you give the references to the evidence you have right here in front of you?
I am interested to see the facts as I too thought that Scottish children were not granted places at the University of their choice because some universities were catering for foreign students who paid higher fees.

Indeed, I thought that the Universities were in despair about the low level of funding from the Scottish Government for a home based Scottish student. I think the payment is substantially less than the amount paid to support the education of pupils in senior schools which I thought was more than £8000.

Please don't think this is an attempt at deflection. If more Scottish children are in Scottish Universities that's great. It might however be that the base used when Dundee, Aberdeen, Edinburgh Glasgow was the starting point, and then the technical colleges were converted to Universities is the reason for most of the increase.

I don't read that Scottish Universities are happy with their lot, but I do read that they are seriously concerned that their ability to pull in foreign students to square the books is under pressure from home based Universities in India and China.

[Deebunked]

Hi Deebunked. Could you give the references to the evidence you have right here in front of you?
I am interested to see the facts as I too thought that Scottish children were not granted places at the University of their choice because some universities were catering for foreign students who paid higher fees.

Indeed, I thought that the Universities were in despair about the low level of funding from the Scottish Government for a home based Scottish student. I think the payment is substantially less than the amount paid to support the education of pupils in senior schools which I thought was more than £8000.

Please don't think this is an attempt at deflection. If more Scottish children are in Scottish Universities that's great. It might however be that the base used when Dundee, Aberdeen, Edinburgh Glasgow was the starting point, and then the technical colleges were converted to Universities is the reason for most of the increase.

I don't read that Scottish Universities are happy with their lot, but I do read that they are seriously concerned that their ability to pull in foreign students to square the books is under pressure from home based Universities in India and China.

https://www.gov.scot/news/more-scott...-universities/

[Deebunked]

Lol Debunked the racist snob and now wannabe mass murderer.......I'll differentiate myself from that any day of the week.

What are you gibbering about now? What's with the personal crap?

[islaydarkblue]

https://www.gov.scot/news/more-scott...-universities/

Thanks for the information.
However a 1.6% increase in Scottish students compared to a 37.1% increase in non EU students shows that the universities particularly the ones such St Andrews and Edinburgh are keen to get overseas students who pay the full cost of their degree course.
In my opinion there are too many former technical colleges who are now ‘jumped up’ universities with the daddy of them all, the University of the Highlands and Islands which consists of a rag, tag and bobtail group of former technical colleges including a Gaelic college.