Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Whats this, A tory paper having a go at its biggest threat? I thought you lot didn't read the Fail?

As the person who posted it, if you'd read my other recent posts in this very thread you'd have known the back ground. I'll explain what happened in simple terms for you.

I don't read the Daily Fail. Someone posted the photo on FB. It amused me. I took a PNG screenshot but the forum wouldn't load it. I then took a JPG screenshot. Same result. I then found the original online and tried to upload the photo from there using this sites [IMG] upload function. That too failed. That left me with but one option. Post the link, which I duly did. That turned out to the the Fail. That does not, however, indicate that I read the damned thing. I repeat, if you'd read my recent posts in this very thread you'd have been aware...

[MadAmster]

In the Blue Tory/Red Tory "debate", Rishi was lauding his Rwanda plan as the solution. I did a spot of research and found this in a Guardian article...

Rishi Sunak’s flagship plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda will cost taxpayers £1.8m for each of the first 300 people the government deports to Kigali, Whitehall’s official spending watchdog has disclosed.

The overall cost of the scheme stands at more than half a billion pounds, according to the figures released to the National Audit Office. Even if the UK sends nobody to the central African state, Sunak has signed up to pay £370m from the public purse over the five-year deal.

So, to sum up, if we send nobody the Rwanda "deal" will cost the UK Taxpayer £370M. If we send just the 300, that will rise to £540M or an extra £566K per "extradition". I think the Rwanda government are far better negotiators than HMG based on those figures.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I suspect the rationale is that once the flights start, the need to deport will rapidly recede as UK will not be seen as a great place to head for any longer. So maybe shipping 300 out would result in 30000 less attempted entries. Those maths work better for those trying to staunch the bleed.

[Andy_Faber]

I suspect the rationale is that once the flights start, the need to deport will rapidly recede as UK will not be seen as a great place to head for any longer. So maybe shipping 300 out would result in 30000 less attempted entries. Those maths work better for those trying to staunch the bleed.

Someone taking the long view. You’ll never make a politician

[Trickytreesreds]

Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Trump. They are/were great orators. Knew what the audience wanted to hear and gave it to them in spades. I would NOT want to live under any of the 4 I mentioned.

Here in NL, we have Wilders, who is very similar. A very good orator. When he became the largest party (I say "he" as he is the only member, he was shocked, frightened. It meant that he could no longer get away with what he'd always done, and what Farridge is doing. No, he found himself in a position where he was now part of the institution he had done nothing but criticise without coming up with a viable solution. He, and IMO Farridge too, don't have solutions. It's not their way. All his far right anti immigrant and anti Islam manifesto policies have been put away because they are illegal in NL and/or illegal in the EU and/or would break international treaties to which NL is a signatory. Basically, Wilders is clueless, as is Farridge, IMHO.

That's your opinion, but Europe itself is turning.
Germany now granting nothing and shipping them out.
One of the reason they are running this way.

Just ask yourself this. WHY/HOW has the right risen in Europe? (stop using far right, it gets tiring after a while).
If the left/ centre left hadn't failed so miserably and taken the time to listen to its populations, then none of this would be happening.

[Trickytreesreds]

As the person who posted it, if you'd read my other recent posts in this very thread you'd have known the back ground. I'll explain what happened in simple terms for you.

I don't read the Daily Fail. Someone posted the photo on FB. It amused me. I took a PNG screenshot but the forum wouldn't load it. I then took a JPG screenshot. Same result. I then found the original online and tried to upload the photo from there using this sites [IMG] upload function. That too failed. That left me with but one option. Post the link, which I duly did. That turned out to the the Fail. That does not, however, indicate that I read the damned thing. I repeat, if you'd read my recent posts in this very thread you'd have been aware...

Oh, so you wanted to use something as ammunition, but it actually came from the "deaded Fail".
But anything from the fail is demonised in here, as false information.
Only Guardian "facts" are accepted.
Still doesn't change the fact, that the Fail is a Tory paper and would naturally attack a Tory problem.

[Trickytreesreds]

I suspect the rationale is that once the flights start, the need to deport will rapidly recede as UK will not be seen as a great place to head for any longer. So maybe shipping 300 out would result in 30000 less attempted entries. Those maths work better for those trying to staunch the bleed.

Exactly, which is why "push back" is an even cheaper option. Ride the howls and screams and it would be over inside a month.
Only way to break the model, is make it totally off limits.

[MadAmster]

Oh, so you wanted to use something as ammunition, but it actually came from the "deaded Fail".
But anything from the fail is demonised in here, as false information.
Only Guardian "facts" are accepted.
Still doesn't change the fact, that the Fail is a Tory paper and would naturally attack a Tory problem.

Dude. I saw something amusing. I posted it. Whether I like Farridge and his policies or not, him bearing a physical resemblance to Parker is amusing. Just the same as Sunak's likeness to Roland Rat. I'm quite sure there's a comical Starmer lookalike out there somewhere. If I see it and it amuses me, I'll post it. If someone else finds one and posts it and it's amusing I'll show my appreciation.

Ammunition? You seeing it that way says a lot. You appear to look for conflict. There was no ulterior motive other than raising a smile in my post. Should I have used an emoji so you might understand that? Take a chill pill and relax.

[Andy_Faber]

When they failed, that was the first thing I checked. All 3 were less than 1MB. "Parker" for instance is 544Kb, the other 2 were a similar size.

MA (and all), my efforts on this failed too, I've emailed admin for advice. Don't hold your breath

[Andy_Faber]

When they failed, that was the first thing I checked. All 3 were less than 1MB. "Parker" for instance is 544Kb, the other 2 were a similar size.

Amazingly, admin have come back to me by email and said they'll take a look at it