Tory

[eric_sinclair]

If it doesn't improve under labour I can see continued support for both lib Dems and Reform parties.
Voters are fed up with the main 2 parties and the 2 I've mentioned got plenty votes,altho reform only won 4 seats.
I'm all for change but Stammer deserves a chance.

[noahrab]

The one trick ponies got routed, the nasty cats. The Tories committed suicide, now we have a government nobody wants or trusts. Hold on to your hats.

The majority of the electorate in each constituency that returned a Labour MP wanted and trusted them.

[Dodbroon]

If it doesn't improve under labour I can see continued support for both lib Dems and Reform parties.
Voters are fed up with the main 2 parties and the 2 I've mentioned got plenty votes,altho reform only won 4 seats.
I'm all for change but Stammer deserves a chance.

I can see that too, I don't think the Tories are finished but they are out of the picture for a while. Starmer deserves a chance based on the enormous majority he has just obtained albeit with less votes than in the last election when they were well beaten. PR has its downsides but would stop a party getting such a huge majority with only 34% of the popular vote. A Labour government with such a large majority worries me and no Labour government has ever left the country's finances in a better state than it was when they came into power. Perhaps this one will and they surely couldn't do a worse job than the Tories. So we have just seen democracy in action. I didn't get the result I wanted and to be fair I'm not really sure what I did want. More of the Tories, no. A massive Labour majority, no. Lib Dems too green and 'airy fairy' for me. Reform no real presence up here, some reasonable ideas, many crackpot ideas and candidates. SNP never for me, incompetent, corrupt and clueless. Maybe a Labour government with a much smaller majority would have been ok.

As far as the foregoing debate about Ross is concerned he lost, may well have deserved to lose but why all the vitriol from the left. The left in politics go on all about the nasty Tories and the extremes of the right but in my experience the left is just as, if not much more nasty, than the right albeit some of these Reform party characters try hard to disprove this. Just because someone on the opposite end of politics has different views there is no need to call them snakes and rats imo anyway.

[Piscean]

Anyone who trusts Keir Starmer, the human windscreen wiper, needs their heads examined. Hopefully next election the nasty nats will be completely wiped out.

[Deebunked]

I can see that too, I don't think the Tories are finished but they are out of the picture for a while. Starmer deserves a chance based on the enormous majority he has just obtained albeit with less votes than in the last election when they were well beaten. PR has its downsides but would stop a party getting such a huge majority with only 34% of the popular vote. A Labour government with such a large majority worries me and no Labour government has ever left the country's finances in a better state than it was when they came into power. Perhaps this one will and they surely couldn't do a worse job than the Tories. So we have just seen democracy in action. I didn't get the result I wanted and to be fair I'm not really sure what I did want. More of the Tories, no. A massive Labour majority, no. Lib Dems too green and 'airy fairy' for me. Reform no real presence up here, some reasonable ideas, many crackpot ideas and candidates. SNP never for me, incompetent, corrupt and clueless. Maybe a Labour government with a much smaller majority would have been ok.

As far as the foregoing debate about Ross is concerned he lost, may well have deserved to lose but why all the vitriol from the left. The left in politics go on all about the nasty Tories and the extremes of the right but in my experience the left is just as, if not much more nasty, than the right albeit some of these Reform party characters try hard to disprove this. Just because someone on the opposite end of politics has different views there is no need to call them snakes and rats imo anyway.

STV is better than straight PR, also allows for local success.

Douglas Ross brings it on himself imho

[Deeranged]

As far as the foregoing debate about Ross is concerned he lost, may well have deserved to lose but why all the vitriol from the left. The left in politics go on all about the nasty Tories and the extremes of the right but in my experience the left is just as, if not much more nasty, than the right albeit some of these Reform party characters try hard to disprove this. Just because someone on the opposite end of politics has different views there is no need to call them snakes and rats imo anyway.

Ross is a snake, he fashioned the exit of a sick man in a seemingly safe Tory seat so that he could take it himself. It backfired and he's got egg splattered all over his face. Karma's a bitch.

Quick question, how would you describe someone that did that at your work?

[BCram]

I think all forms of proportional voting takes away from the electorate the power to vote someone out and gives the power to select politicians to the political parties they represent via their "list". Politicians should be concerned about their electorate, rather than simply following party policy.

[islaydarkblue]

STV is better than straight PR, also allows for local success.

Douglas Ross brings it on himself imho

In my opinion PR is hopeless. Countries like Italy which elect governments using PR have lots of general elections as power sharing amongst political parties often break down resulting in another General Election.
The list vote system has resulted in the Greens who did put up any candidates for the first past the post constituency seats in the 2021 Scottish Parliament election ended up holding the balance of power thanks to Nicola Sturgeon inviting them to join the SNP controlled Scottish Government to ensure that she had a majority at Holyrood.
I cannot see the SNP ever doing that again as they should have operated as a minority government getting laws passed on a case by case basis with other political parties at Holyrood.

[islaydarkblue]

I think all forms of proportional voting takes away from the electorate the power to vote someone out and gives the power to select politicians to the political parties they represent via their "list". Politicians should be concerned about their electorate, rather than simply following party policy.

Unfortunately politicians as soon as they are elected as an MP or an MSP suffer a memory loss as they forget all the things they said would get done if they were elected to their respective parliament.
Jenni Minto stated in May 2021 immediately after she was elected as the SNP MSP for Argyll and Bute that she would get the Calmac ferries problems sorted out and the continual problems with the A83 Road at the Rest and be Thankful resolved.
What has she done since she was elected an MSP in May 2021 about the Calmac Ferries and the A83 at the Rest and be Thankful.
Nothing.
The Calmac ferries are still breaking down and being removed from service whilst the ferries being built at the Scottish Government owned Ferguson Shipyard are still not in service despite being over five years late and three times over budget.
The Scottish Government are still adopting the ‘sticking plaster’ approach to the ongoing problems on the A83 at the Rest and be Thankful.
Jenni Minto has kept quiet at Holyrood and towed the party line which resulted in her being appointed the Scottish Government Public Health Minister when Humza Yousef became First Minister.

[The AuldYin]

Ross is a snake, he fashioned the exit of a sick man in a seemingly safe Tory seat so that he could take it himself. It backfired and he's got egg splattered all over his face. Karma's a bitch.

Quick question, how would you describe someone that did that at your work?

Nothing will beat Ian Blackfords campaign and his treatment of Charles Kennedy in 2015.