Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Its just nice to have a proper grown up politician as PM. Now of course they have to deliver, but lets face it, almost anybody would do better than the shower of ****e we have had for the last 14 years.

I sincerely hope the Tories welcome Farage on board, that will destroy them completely, but don't see that happening. As for Farage, well given he isn't a conviction politician, purely a loud mouthed **** stirrer, he will prove to be a crap constituency MP, will rapidly get fed up with having zero influence in Parliament (if he actually attends) and eventually when he realises the game is up will move on to some other lucrative venture where he can grift and dupe other simple people into giving him money.

I fully expect him to keep his tenure as Clacton MP, after all he has track record of making the most of a taxpayer funded salary and the expenses that go with it.

Unfortunately as will soon be demonstrated, he has no ability to actually do the hard yards that being successful in politics requires. By that I mean actually achieving something, not using clear lies and false rhetoric to scare people into making decisions that are clearly against the interests of voters as a whole.

If Reform lasts until the end of this parliament, I'd be very surprised, even thick voters will note that they achieve nothing in due course, except of course the very dim, i.e. those who claim Brexit would be a success, its just not been delivered properly and those who seem to think that demographics can somehow be countered by wishful thinking!

Ah well good luck to Starmer, he may not be perfect, but not seeing some stupid 3 word slogan on a lectern designed to appeal to the dim witted is a great start.

If there’s one thing worse than a poor loser it’s a poor winner…

[ramAnag]

Please do, seeing as Mosley was a self confessed fascist and admirer of Hitler and Mussolini. I am intrigued how you can put a parrallel on that with any justification. You also can explain to me, how the right is Rising all over the EU in response to the inept policies and lack of care from the EU body.

Okay…a few parallels for you.

Both good at public speaking, at least as far as the gullible are concerned, i.e. both very effective ‘rabble rousers’.

Both privately educated and from privileged backgrounds who then made a political ‘career’ out of portraying themselves as ‘men of the people’.

Both dabbled as members of the Conservative Party before becoming disenchanted egotists who formed their own Parties.

Both rapidly progressed to blame immigrants and the poor for all society’s ills. For Mosley’s Jews read Farage and Muslims.

Both present as self seeking, opportunistic populists.

Both idolised the most controversial political figures of the day. In Mosley’s case, as you rightly say, Hitler and Mussolini. In Farage’s…admiration for Putin and adulation of Trump.

Both were/are a menace to their country, although that last one may be just my opinion. There’s more but that’ll do for now. Decided whether you want to identify as a modern day ‘black shirt’ yet?

[Trickytreesreds]

Okay…a few parallels for you.

Both good at public speaking, at least as far as the gullible are concerned, i.e. both very effective ‘rabble rousers’.

Both privately educated and from privileged backgrounds who then made a political ‘career’ out of portraying themselves as ‘men of the people’.

Both dabbled as members of the Conservative Party before becoming disenchanted egotists who formed their own Parties.

Both rapidly progressed to blame immigrants and the poor for all society’s ills. For Mosley’s Jews read Farage and Muslims.

Both present as self seeking, opportunistic populists.

Both idolised the most controversial political figures of the day. In Mosley’s case, as you rightly say, Hitler and Mussolini. In Farage’s…admiration for Putin and adulation of Trump.

Both were/are a menace to their country, although that last one may be just my opinion. There’s more but that’ll do for now. Decided whether you want to identify as a modern day ‘black shirt’ yet?

You are seriously calling that a comparison? lololol

Laughable.

Here's one for you to defend, from Jess Phillips after what Farage has highlighted. This is the problem with some ot you lot. Rather than talk about and confront a problem, you'd rather persecute the person raising the points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBbFxgO4G8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpziZQmgpvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcBwyP7qu4

Have a watch and Phillips is complicit in not calling the problem out fully.

[Trickytreesreds]

I do notice, that no one really wants to talk about the rise of the right in Europe, which currently is far higher than here.
Is that an inconvinient truth that bursts the left/ globalist bubble, that the EU has pushed?

Maybe you trips to France are in danger RA?

Can anyone explain this properly, without blaming Farage?

[ramAnag]

You are seriously calling that a comparison? lololol

Laughable.

Here's one for you to defend, from Jess Phillips after what Farage has highlighted. This is the problem with some ot you lot. Rather than talk about and confront a problem, you'd rather persecute the person raising the points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBbFxgO4G8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpziZQmgpvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcBwyP7qu4

Have a watch and Phillips is complicit in not calling the problem out fully.

No, not ‘a comparison’…seven, very easy, parallels… ‘comparisons’ if you prefer.
Still, if you just want to return to being ‘Capt.YouTube’, have someone else make your points and shift the debate somewhere else, that’s up to you.
I’ve got better things to do…oh and I’m not sure how your beloved Nigel is being ‘persecuted’ but I’m certainly not involved. I’m just supporting the description of him being an ‘awful human being’.

[MadAmster]

TTR. Hitler - Dictator. Mussolini - Dictator. Putin - Dictator. Trump wants to be one. Have you seen his "Agenda 2025"? Dictator in waiting

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[swaledale]

If there’s one thing worse than a poor loser it’s a poor winner…

If there's one thing worse than stupid person, its a stupid person who thinks he is clever!

For a start I'm not a "winner" or a "loser" in this election, which would be evident to any person with average critical thinking ability who is able to see politics outside the very narrow right/left perspective.

Secondly, any person who considers Reform to be either a serious political party or that their "policies" are in any way realistic, workable or a even a reasonable point of view clearly lacks a working cognitive function.

I do understand that for many people, critical thinking isn't something they are capable of, which they demonstrate when giving an opinion or posting crap on here. That may be not their fault, highly likely they aren't capable, or they may just be lazy thinkers, either way the end result is the same.

I'd always recommend keeping quiet if you don't understand what's being said!

[swaledale]

No, not ‘a comparison’…seven, very easy, parallels… ‘comparisons’ if you prefer.
Still, if you just want to return to being ‘Capt.YouTube’, have someone else make your points and shift the debate somewhere else, that’s up to you.
I’ve got better things to do…oh and I’m not sure how your beloved Nigel is being ‘persecuted’ but I’m certainly not involved. I’m just supporting the description of him being an ‘awful human being’.

rA, best do what I've done an ignore the tw@t!

Though it might be pertinent to note that Reform got basically the same proportion of the vote that UKIP did in 2015, which suggests that any suggestion there is a groundswell or support for a far right party in the UK isn't true.

[Geoff Parkstone]

rA, best do what I've done an ignore the tw@t!

Though it might be pertinent to note that Reform got basically the same proportion of the vote that UKIP did in 2015, which suggests that any suggestion there is a groundswell or support for a far right party in the UK isn't true.

I disagree with that last assertion. UKIP was essentially a one trick pony and attracted a wider audience and broader support than Reform because of it. Reform does not have that single purpose agenda, although it will have certain elements of UKIP old guard supporting it. For Reform to attract as much, if not a tad more, support "than 2015" is disturbing and indicative of a shift in UK ground level support. Keep your head in the sand by all means, but the share of the vote gained by Reform IS indicative of a change in the making - and not a positive change either. Parliament may have swung left yet perversely the electorate haven't.

[Andy_Faber]

rA, best do what I've done an ignore the tw@t!

Though it might be pertinent to note that Reform got basically the same proportion of the vote that UKIP did in 2015, which suggests that any suggestion there is a groundswell or support for a far right party in the UK isn't true.

Agreeing yet again with GP, your bigotry is blinding you to the differences between UKIP and Reform. There’s a groundswell of support driven by a feeling of being passed over, and You can call such people all the names you want, they are there and growing whether you, I or GP like it or not, and just calling people names will only swell the ranks, how do you think the undecided feel when your potty mouthed demeanour makes it seem like you’re still in shorts?