England @. Euro 2024

[ragingpup]

Your either side with Warney or Evans. Southgate or let's say Venables. I'm latter on both just going on personalities.

I think I understand you gru. You like a real man don't you. Butch and manly. I get you. Grrrrrrrr

[Ronners]

I’d agree with you but there wasn’t anything between France an the Netherlands when they played one and other.

You're right frog there wasn't anything between France and the Dutch, just like at the time we scored the winner against the Dutch they were probably looking more likely to win it. My point to Scum was that sometimes any team can get into what is classed as the weaker/stronger side of the draw simply because one or more of the more fancied teams don't do what's expected of them. UTM

[animallittle3]

I think underdogs suits us going in to this final , I think most of us 3 years ago thought that with a Wembley final and not the best Italian team we've ever seen we'd finally land the major trophy we've craved for so many years .

This Final is different , Spain have probably been the standout team at this tournament and put out some big names , beating the French and knocking the Germans out in their own tournament is extremely impressive .

I'm going with a football percentage angle , how many times in history have the most impressive team found the Final one game too many ?

The Dutch in 1974 were the standout but we've seen others too and I reckon England may well just do this .

That Final defeat 3 years ago will actually work for us in my opinion with the Spanish still extremely good but still emerging if you will .

Spanish slightly off it , England at their very best when it matters the most will get it done in my opinion .

2-0 to the three lions .

[Scum-Triumphant]

I think underdogs suits us going in to this final , I think most of us 3 years ago thought that with a Wembley final and not the best Italian team we've ever seen we'd finally land the major trophy we've craved for so many years .

This Final is different , Spain have probably been the standout team at this tournament and put out some big names , beating the French and knocking the Germans out in their own tournament is extremely impressive .

I'm going with a football percentage angle , how many times in history have the most impressive team found the Final one game too many ?

The Dutch in 1974 were the standout but we've seen others too and I reckon England may well just do this .

That Final defeat 3 years ago will actually work for us in my opinion with the Spanish still extremely good but still emerging if you will .

Spanish slightly off it , England at their very best when it matters the most will get it done in my opinion .

2-0 to the three lions .

That’s exactly what happened to us in 2021 at Wembley. We had been far better than the Italians.
Just not savvy enough in the final. Southgate has learned from that.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

That’s exactly what happened to us in 2021 at Wembley. We had been far better than the Italians.
Just not savvy enough in the final. Southgate has learned from that.

Let’s hope he has

[Scum-Triumphant]

Let’s have a little look at Spain.

16 year old school boy on the wing.
One of the centre halfs plays in Saudi.
Cucarella isn’t a Chelsea regular.
Morata wasn’t good enough for the premier league.
Navas is 38

Surely England beat them tonight.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Let’s have a little look at Spain.

16 year old school boy on the wing.
One of the centre halfs plays in Saudi.
Cucarella isn’t a Chelsea regular.
Morata wasn’t good enough for the premier league.
Navas is 38

Surely England beat them tonight.

Since you put it that way it might point towards better training methods bringing the " best" out in them?

[frogmiller]

You're right frog there wasn't anything between France and the Dutch, just like at the time we scored the winner against the Dutch they were probably looking more likely to win it. My point to Scum was that sometimes any team can get into what is classed as the weaker/stronger side of the draw simply because one or more of the more fancied teams don't do what's expected of them. UTM

Je suis d’accord

[gru]

I think I understand you gru. You like a real man don't you. Butch and manly. I get you. Grrrrrrrr

No just a forward thinking manager who players get who'll tell chairman if he thinks club could be getting it wrong in certain areas.

[gru]

No just a forward thinking manager who players get who'll tell chairman if he thinks club could be getting it wrong in certain areas.

edit... whose not scared to tell the chairman