O/T:- Trump

[Mud Pie]

A mate of mine over here in New Zealand is a senior Police Officer and he always says that for someone to say they 'hate' somebody who they have never met or had no dealings with, says more about the mental capacity of those doing the 'hating' rather than mental capacity of the one they hate.

obviously that doesn't apply to Gareth Southgate though, right?

[Mud Pie]

A mate of mine over here in New Zealand is a senior Police Officer and he always says that for someone to say they 'hate' somebody who they have never met or had no dealings with, says more about the mental capacity of those doing the 'hating' rather than mental capacity of the one they hate.

Trump on Larry King talking about the Central Park 5: "Of course I hate these people, and let's all hate these people because maybe hate is what we need if we're gonna get something done."

[jackal2]

A mate of mine over here in New Zealand is a senior Police Officer and he always says that for someone to say they 'hate' somebody who they have never met or had no dealings with, says more about the mental capacity of those doing the 'hating' rather than mental capacity of the one they hate.

Absolutely true. I suspect a lot of people are probably guilty of using the word 'hate' about someone (or something) at some point in their lives without truly understanding it, even if they think they do in the moment.

If you want an example of the emotion of hate being thoroughly reversed, look no further than the late Rev Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness in Northern Ireland, sworn and deadly enemies for decades and yet they ended up hugely liking and respecting each other and became known as the 'Chuckle Brothers'.

[irishpete]

Absolutely true. I suspect a lot of people are probably guilty of using the word 'hate' about someone (or something) at some point in their lives without truly understanding it, even if they think they do in the moment.

If you want an example of the emotion of hate being thoroughly reversed, look no further than the late Rev Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness in Northern Ireland, sworn and deadly enemies for decades and yet they ended up hugely liking and respecting each other and became known as the 'Chuckle Brothers'.

Don't always believe what you see & hear. What goes off on the outside & inside couldn't be more different. The "Chuckle Brothers" as you call them were no different, before the Good Friday Agreement

[LincsPie]

You need to read posts more closely Laxton came to close to advocating that Trump should be killed but he didn't he just said he was sad the bullet missed. Me and others have said they have little sympathy if he got shot based on the fact he is a deplorable individual who has caused deep distress and harm to others. There is a HUGE difference. I feel very very sorry for the unsuspecting individuals and their families in attendance who did lose their lives who got injured who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not supporting Trump at all here but would you have still have 'had little sympathy' if the 'deplorable individual' had been killed and his supporters of the like that stormed the Capitol had gone on an armed rampage causing the deaths of innocents/bystanders in a misguided sense of 'justice' - no doubt you would have been very very very very sorry for them but hey Trump got shot.

[queenslandpie]

How can you deplore someone you don't know? You probably know very little about him apart from the rubbish that the media serves you.

I couldn't stand Bill Clinton and even more Barack Obama - I wouldn't wish death on anyone whoever they were. Trump supporters were called the deplorables by Hilary Clinton, but seriously there are people on here that are much lower than that.

It's a simple fact that as a developer of property he has gone bust many times and not paid any of his creditors who are small hard working family businesses. Even though he could afford to pay them he just hid behind the wall of his companies and lawyers. Of course he isn't the only one to do that. Is that not a deplorable act in your eyes? He sold out the very people he is now claiming to represent to serve himself.

[queenslandpie]

Not supporting Trump at all here but would you have still have 'had little sympathy' if the 'deplorable individual' had been killed and his supporters of the like that stormed the Capitol had gone on an armed rampage causing the deaths of innocents/bystanders in a misguided sense of 'justice' - no doubt you would have been very very very very sorry for them but hey Trump got shot.

I've read that 4 times now and it still doesn't make any sense. Care to explain it?

[OldBanksy]

There are a bazillion political leaders who have caused carnage with foreign policy. There are few who have "shat on their own doorstep" in a supposed democratic country as Trump through shady domestic business dealings. The closest ones I can think of that come to mind are Conservative MPs and the PPE scandal. But at least the public saw them for what they were and comprehensively booted them out.

Shady domestic business dealings? Is that it? Other Presidents and Prime Ministers have started wars, including the illegal Iraq war.

Trump didn't start any wars. The only people he killed were Al-Qaeda.

And you wouldn't be unhappy if he was killed because of "shady domestic business dealings"? Do you think the Clinton family or the Biden family are clean actors?

[upthemaggies]

Fascinating stuff! Thank you for writing that up. Any recommended readings in the subject?

Published late last year by a former Thames Television journalist. He interviewed all three people who worked on John in the hospital, the chief detective on the case (who admitted he did a poor job and supplied Whelan with all five of Yoko's witness statements) and the very suspicious guy on the desk inside the Dakota building who claimed John ran past him shouting "I'm shot, I', shot!". He's currently putting a TV documentary together on the subject.

[i961pie]

Shady domestic business dealings? Is that it? Other Presidents and Prime Ministers have started wars, including the illegal Iraq war.

Trump didn't start any wars. The only people he killed were Al-Qaeda.

And you wouldn't be unhappy if he was killed because of "shady domestic business dealings"? Do you think the Clinton family or the Biden family are clean actors?

If he starts a war it will probably a civil one.