O/T:- Trump

[Jampie]

Trump was found to have committed ***ual assault in a court of law by a jury. It was a civil case so the requirement was not "beyond a reasonable doubt", so I guess you could have a reasonable doubt that he's a rapist. Personally I don't feel the need to decide either way, but there does seem to be a plenty of evidence he doesn't always act with consent.

Which is my problem with his "grab them by the..." comment. No consent was implied and in fact he implied none was given "they let you do it". That isn't consent. If any of my friends had boasted like that I would absolutely ask them to clarify themselves immediately.

Trump has been found guilty of criminal fraud in a criminal trial. The supreme court's completely insane immunity ruling is likely to disrupt his sentencing however.

There is extremely credible evidence that he stole and refused to return highly classified documents in a criminal manner. However, that trial has also been delayed, this time by a judge he appointed refusing to recuse herself and ultimately dismissing the case with dubious reasoning that is extremely likely to be overturned on appeal. Unfortunately there's a solid chance he will be President again before he's brought to trial for this, and he'll probably pardon himself for a bunch of crimes.

And then there are his various attempts to illegally (and legally) disrupt the 2020 election. Charges have been filed for these but again that's looking like it'll be delayed beyond the election.

Basically he's either going to die as president or in prison, at this point.

Contrasting with Hilary Clinton: Trump campaigned, literally, on locking her up. In four years his DOJ never filed charges. Conclusion: not enough evidence of any crime to charge her. Does this mean she is a good person? No. It just means she either didn't commit any crimes, or wasn't as stupid as Trump when she did. Trump has left ample evidence of wrongdoing all over the place, including on his public Twit account.

Joe Biden: His son seems to have been a drug addict and at least part time small-scale criminal and tax avoider. Zero evidence Joe was involved in any of this. If he was, again why did Trump's DOJ fail to charge him in four years?

Of course you could argue Trump was utterly incompetent in office and his DOJ could well have screwed up. Sure. That's possible. Plausible even. But that isn't evidence of Clinton or Biden wrongdoing, is it?

[OldBanksy]

" ... a judge he appointed refusing to recuse herself and ultimately dismissing the case with dubious reasoning ..."

So you're providing evidence that the US justice system is political and corrupt?

Can you imagine the lengths that the Left and the deep state would go to in order to stop Trump?

Tucker Carlson even predicted Trump would be assassinated when it appeared that the lawfare efforts were failing

[MarcusCole]

Trump was found to have committed ***ual assault in a court of law by a jury. It was a civil case so the requirement was not "beyond a reasonable doubt", so I guess you could have a reasonable doubt that he's a rapist. Personally I don't feel the need to decide either way, but there does seem to be a plenty of evidence he doesn't always act with consent.

Which is my problem with his "grab them by the..." comment. No consent was implied and in fact he implied none was given "they let you do it". That isn't consent. If any of my friends had boasted like that I would absolutely ask them to clarify themselves immediately.

Trump has been found guilty of criminal fraud in a criminal trial. The supreme court's completely insane immunity ruling is likely to disrupt his sentencing however.

There is extremely credible evidence that he stole and refused to return highly classified documents in a criminal manner. However, that trial has also been delayed, this time by a judge he appointed refusing to recuse herself and ultimately dismissing the case with dubious reasoning that is extremely likely to be overturned on appeal. Unfortunately there's a solid chance he will be President again before he's brought to trial for this, and he'll probably pardon himself for a bunch of crimes.

And then there are his various attempts to illegally (and legally) disrupt the 2020 election. Charges have been filed for these but again that's looking like it'll be delayed beyond the election.

Basically he's either going to die as president or in prison, at this point.

Contrasting with Hilary Clinton: Trump campaigned, literally, on locking her up. In four years his DOJ never filed charges. Conclusion: not enough evidence of any crime to charge her. Does this mean she is a good person? No. It just means she either didn't commit any crimes, or wasn't as stupid as Trump when she did. Trump has left ample evidence of wrongdoing all over the place, including on his public Twit account.

Joe Biden: His son seems to have been a drug addict and at least part time small-scale criminal and tax avoider. Zero evidence Joe was involved in any of this. If he was, again why did Trump's DOJ fail to charge him in four years?

Of course you could argue Trump was utterly incompetent in office and his DOJ could well have screwed up. Sure. That's possible. Plausible even. But that isn't evidence of Clinton or Biden wrongdoing, is it?

Please refer to my previous post about Midwits, you are a prime example. You have lapped up the left wing media lies, perhaps you should try getting you news from multiple sources and also try doing some verification yourself.

The most laughable one is not taking action against Hilary, perhaps they concluded that taking legal action against political opponents was not the thing to do in a functioning democracy.

[BigFatPie]

Nicked off Twitter;

Hold the **** on, hold the mother****ing **** on a second… are people actually out there talking about a Trump win being “inevitable”?
You’re talking about the twice impeached, quadruply indicted, 34-times convicted, adjudicated rapist, business fraud who kept our national security secrets in his f’ng bathroom and wanted to see his VP hanged for not breaking democracy?
The sociopath who golfed while thousands of Americans were dying a day and asked about injecting bleach is some kind of ****ing “given”?
The “dictator on day one” who said he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and would inherit a Supreme Court that would actually let him? That guy’s winning is already written?
Really?
The child-separating racist who is promising detention camps and mass deportations?
The Putin puppet who’ll abandon NATO?
We’re just gonna surrender to that ****ing guy and all the accompanying awful that comes with him?
Now? In JULY?!?
Because he’s got a pantyliner on his ear thanks to a twisted **** who got his hands on a weapon we’ve all been trying to ban??

Are you ****ing high?

[Elite_Pie]

Please refer to my previous post about Midwits, you are a prime example. You have lapped up the left wing media lies, perhaps you should try getting you news from multiple sources and also try doing some verification yourself.

You obviously get your news from multiple sources.

Multiple sources on the far right.

[Jampie]

Please refer to my previous post about Midwits, you are a prime example. You have lapped up the left wing media lies, perhaps you should try getting you news from multiple sources and also try doing some verification yourself.

I read court documents. Are those left wing media lies?

What are your sources?

The most laughable one is not taking action against Hilary, perhaps they concluded that taking legal action against political opponents was not the thing to do in a functioning democracy.

I find that notion faintly ridiculous. As I mentioned, he literally campaigned on locking her up. Was he just lying the entire time and had a secret desire to uphold political decorum?

[Jampie]

" ... a judge he appointed refusing to recuse herself and ultimately dismissing the case with dubious reasoning ..."

So you're providing evidence that the US justice system is political and corrupt?

Can you imagine the lengths that the Left and the deep state would go to in order to stop Trump?

Tucker Carlson even predicted Trump would be assassinated when it appeared that the lawfare efforts were failing

So... one judge Trump appointed refusing to recuse herself, presiding over Trump's criminal trial and ultimately dismissing it (after exhausting her other delay tactics) is evidence the entire system is corrupt including all 889 other federal justices? No, that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying her actions are reprehensible and do not remotely exonerate Trump from any of his numerous and well documented criminal activities.

The left did stomp trump, in free and fair elections in 2020. And they nearly did it in 2016 too, where he lost the popular vote by a margin of over three million but won the election by about 70,000 votes in a few key districts.

As to the deep state, if you have evidence for that conspiracy theory by all means provide it; otherwise of course I consider it nonsense.

[MarcusCole]

You obviously get your news from multiple sources.

Multiple sources on the far right.

Aren't you clever. far right. Everyone seems to be far right these days to those on the left

[Elite_Pie]

Aren't you clever. far right. Everyone seems to be far right these days to those on the left

I’ll start with the obvious reply, everyone seems to be far left to those on the right!

So please educate me Marcus, give me a few links to these unbiased media sources that suggest that Trump is really a decent bloke.

I bet you can’t provide one.

[OldBanksy]

So... one judge Trump appointed refusing to recuse herself, presiding over Trump's criminal trial and ultimately dismissing it (after exhausting her other delay tactics) is evidence the entire system is corrupt including all 889 other federal justices? No, that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying her actions are reprehensible and do not remotely exonerate Trump from any of his numerous and well documented criminal activities.

The left did stomp trump, in free and fair elections in 2020. And they nearly did it in 2016 too, where he lost the popular vote by a margin of over three million but won the election by about 70,000 votes in a few key districts.

As to the deep state, if you have evidence for that conspiracy theory by all means provide it; otherwise of course I consider it nonsense.

A long time since I've seen anything so partisan and naive.