Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

IT'S JUST LAUGHABLE.

14 years of tory rule blah blah
no one told us it was this bad blah blah ( i told you it was a reverse from the norm for Labour. Its normally feast then famine)
14 years of tory cuts? If there's no money left, someone has had it. blah blah

So exactly how is this nationalised railway going to come about? yOU HAVE TO BUY IT BACK LOL

Green madness money being sent abroad.

Meanwhile the loading with migration, keeps draining the pot unchecked.


Even Eamon Holmes talking sense. Better buckle up, this is going to get rough

https://fb.watch/tEiEWbrvbf/

[MadAmster]

Railway? Simple. In the near future, the contracts expire. No new ones will be given. Therefore no business to buy out, only rolling stock. No need for taxpayers to pay shareholder dividends via the subsidies the rail companies get.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Which will f*** the pensioners again as their private pensions will likely be the biggest holders of rail (and water, when that follows) shares.

There's no such thing as a free lunch, just less obviously visible losers.

[Andy_Faber]

To use MA's phrase, the Red Tories are proving to be as bad as the Blue Tories. Liars, tick already. Incompetent nincompoops, jury's out. Immoral, they'll have to go some to match Boris and crew but hey they have five years. Reeves cold be the Smiling Assassin if she ever cracked a smile

[ramAnag]

To use MA's phrase, the Red Tories are proving to be as bad as the Blue Tories. Liars, tick already. Incompetent nincompoops, jury's out. Immoral, they'll have to go some to match Boris and crew but hey they have five years. Reeves cold be the Smiling Assassin if she ever cracked a smile

I’m away and busy so not taken much notice…but ‘Liars’…why? Reeves, ‘the smiling assassin’…why?
Gather that our winter fuel allowance has gone. Not the best of news but let’s face it…it was always targeted incorrectly in terms of need and as a vote winner from the ‘grey vote’.
If it allows ‘benefits’ to be targeted more appropriately then it’ll make me £200-£300 per year worse off but that doesn’t seem unreasonable in the circumstances.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Well 500 worse off based on last year...but whose counting!

[Trickytreesreds]

I’m away and busy so not taken much notice…but ‘Liars’…why? Reeves, ‘the smiling assassin’…why?
Gather that our winter fuel allowance has gone. Not the best of news but let’s face it…it was always targeted incorrectly in terms of need and as a vote winner from the ‘grey vote’.
If it allows ‘benefits’ to be targeted more appropriately then it’ll make me £200-£300 per year worse off but that doesn’t seem unreasonable in the circumstances.

OK RA, glad you're not too inconvenienced.

However- If you're retired and have income less than £218 a week as an individual, or £332 a week as a couple, you may be due £1,000s a year in Pension Credit.

You get £219 a week or £323 as a couple you get shafted up the ass.
Let that sink in a bit. Party of the people my ass


and before you say it, THEY ARE THE PARTY IN POWER, its on them

meanwhile Milliband is going to toss £11.6 billion away abroad on his climate mission, to lead the way. It leaves a warm glow in your heart dunnit?

There is no difference in this lot or the Tories. Folks claim the Tories were far right. more like far from it. High tax, spend spend spend and now Labour wants to do its usual tricks.

This time however the kitty is empty.

Socialism works great when spending other peoples money, until it runs out, then has to swipe it back from the very people it gave it away to for nowt.

[ramAnag]

OK RA, glad you're not too inconvenienced.

However- If you're retired and have income less than £218 a week as an individual, or £332 a week as a couple, you may be due £1,000s a year in Pension Credit.

You get £219 a week or £323 as a couple you get shafted up the ass.
Let that sink in a bit. Party of the people my ass


and before you say it, THEY ARE THE PARTY IN POWER, its on them

meanwhile Milliband is going to toss £11.6 billion away abroad on his climate mission, to lead the way. It leaves a warm glow in your heart dunnit?

There is no difference in this lot or the Tories. Folks claim the Tories were far right. more like far from it. High tax, spend spend spend and now Labour wants to do its usual tricks.

This time however the kitty is empty.

Socialism works great when spending other peoples money, until it runs out, then has to swipe it back from the very people it gave it away to for nowt.

Okay Tricky…I’ve not been on here for several days and haven’t been in the country or had access to what’s going on since last Thursday but it was a simple observation…the winter fuel allowance, though very welcome, should not really be targeted at people like me…so you won’t find me complaining.
Such ‘benefits’, for want of a better word, need, in my opinion, to be properly means tested so that the money is available to those most in need.
As a matter of fact, in the village I live in, where average house prices are probably in excess of £650k, there are a lot of people of pensionable age and they actually don’t NEED the winter fuel allowance. It was very welcome, particularly when oil was so horrendously expensive a couple of winters ago, but compared with those experiencing genuine hardship we don’t NEED it.
That is my one and only point. I’m not knowledgeable enough about all the other complexities to comment, but if relatively well off pensioners have to go without their winter fuel payment that’s not the end of the world imo, providing the money saved is targeted properly.
Of course people like you will moan endlessly, as you have done ever since July 5th trying to make immediate political capital, but at the end of the day if, as you say, the ‘kitty is empty’…whose fault is that?

[SithHappens]

I've always felt it should have been means tested. Especially when my wife's millionaire boss used to laugh when banking his cheque's for it.

I've told my parents, who will no doubt complain about it, that they don't need it. They don't.

I did soften my view a bit through the worst of the energy bill crisis but prices have settled a bit, if they shoot up again I'm sure extra help will happen.

[swaledale]

To use MA's phrase, the Red Tories are proving to be as bad as the Blue Tories. Liars, tick already. Incompetent nincompoops, jury's out. Immoral, they'll have to go some to match Boris and crew but hey they have five years. Reeves cold be the Smiling Assassin if she ever cracked a smile

FFS! Given your very obvious right leaning views, I'm surprised you find a right leaning Labour party hard to accept, but then looking at what your posting, its fairly obvious your repeating the *******s pumped out by the right wing media, rather than looking at the detail. I mean obviously the remnants of the last lot are frothing at the mouth but then why would any half sentient person believe a word a Tory says at the moment?

Lairs? Mm how have they lied? Come one explain yourself, as I said previously the only commitment they made was that their manifesto promises wouldn't require tax raises.