O/T attack in Southport.

[Back of the net]

No. That would almost be as silly as blaming every member of an ethnic grouping for the actions of a limited number of members of it.

A respected Journalist wrote this morning.

Since 2000.
There have been 97 Terrorist murders in the UK
In 94 of these cases 94 of these were Muslims.
90% of the names on the MI5 watch list are Muslims.

Yes a limited number of members of it.
We can’t keep saying Isolated incidents why don’t we say unacceptable incidents that we need to stop.

Nope let’s all send love and prayers that works.

Yes I Know not all are the same but that is just too many any rational person would agree.

[UlleyMiller]

A respected Journalist wrote this morning.

Since 2000.
There have been 97 Terrorist murders in the UK
In 94 of these cases 94 of these were Muslims.
90% of the names on the MI5 watch list are Muslims.

Yes a limited number of members of it.
We can’t keep saying Isolated incidents why don’t we say unacceptable incidents that we need to stop.

Nope let’s all send love and prayers that works.

Yes I Know not all are the same but that is just too many any rational person would agree.

May I ask who the journalist is and where this was written?

As I said earlier to Stansmate, it's important to be clear about what terrorism is. By definition, in a developed, stable country it's not likely you will see hundreds of people who align to the de facto religion, a major political party, etc wanting to commit terrorist acts. With over 4 million adherents of Islam in the UK, only Christians and atheists outnumber them, and neither of those groups have any widely acknowledged groups radicalising them. It's logical with funding from Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIL who will be targeted for radicalisation, much as it was obvious in previous decades when those entities had less interest in our foreign policy and other groups did, that those numbers would stack up quickly with Catholics. As much as I don't think that 5 million Catholics were a concern in the 1970s and 80s, I don't think 4 million Muslims are of particular concern now - just the miniscule number who are getting snared by terrorist groups abroad.

I don't want more Vincent Fullers, Darren Osbornes, Thomas Mairs to make that number seem less skewed, I would prefer the context to be seen with it. Likewise, I wouldn't want white men in their late 40s and early 50s being seen as a problem because of people like them.

Two things can be true at the same time, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say these are relatively isolated incidents and that it's unacceptable that they happen.

[Tigerish]

The mainstream media will not name this youth because they abide by the law. They also heed the perils of jigsaw identification. It's something to bear in mind when sounding off on social media. Contempt of court is a serious offence, like it or not.

[Yak]

If that had been a dangerous dog attacking kids yesterday it would have been shot. Maybe we should start applying the same actions for scum like this.
Simple bullet to the head will do.
I’d happily do it.