O/T attack in Southport.

[howdydoo]

Who the f is this "super elite"? Elon Musk? Nigel Farage? Suella Braverman? Tony Stewart? Grist?

The political, social and business elites who have a stranglehold on the country. No matter your politics or mine, or beliefs. The electorate sent a strong message in a number of elections and Brexit.

We can throw smart ar$e insults at each other but things are going to escalate. The 'Establishment' are/have been playing a big role.

So, what the f point are you trying to make?

[Eternal Optimist]

The political, social and business elites who have a stranglehold on the country. No matter your politics or mine, or beliefs. The electorate sent a strong message in a number of elections and Brexit.

We can throw smart ar$e insults at each other but things are going to escalate. The 'Establishment' are/have been playing a big role...

Precisely. Division is what they want.

I believe it was the Brexit vote that triggered them into accelerating Agenda 2030. They realised that people are waking up to them.

[scum_triumphant]

What part of the protesters cause is highlighted by smashing their way into a shop and stealing 10k worth of fags and booze?

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

What part of the protesters cause is highlighted by smashing their way into a shop and stealing 10k worth of fags and booze?

Stocking up for Christmas before Starmer cancels it

[KerrAvon]

Stocking up for Christmas before Starmer cancels it

And putting police officers in hospital? Got any jokes for that one?

[Yak]

There are 2 types of people on this thread and up and down the country.

The ones who believe what their eyes and common sense is telling them.

The ones who believe the propaganda and managed information.

I’m glad I’m one and not the other.

[KerrAvon]

There are 2 types of people on this thread and up and down the country.

The ones who believe what their eyes and common sense is telling them.

The ones who believe the propaganda and managed information.

I’m glad I’m one and not the other.

You talk about propaganda and yet the disturbances in Southport that you ‘explained’ and excused earlier in the thread were almost certainly kicked off by the hoax identification of the suspect that did the rounds on the internet and which has unquestioningly been reproduced by a couple of posters on here.

I’m not certain that you are in the group that you believe that you are in.

[John2]

The ones who believe the propaganda and managed information.

I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".