Stabbings

[Swissclaret]

Oh dear Swiss, you have really ruined my hopes of the promised Utopia which I thought was just around the corner. After all, we were promised so much and this cynic was starting to believe.

Well I never. You! Cynical, Supersub. Who would have believed it?

[kritichris]

How many children of immigrants are winning medals for us in Paris now? The Southport incident was just a deranged one-off attack by a sick (in the mind?) individual. Having seen some of the rioters methinks it is them we should be getting rid of.

[sinkov]

Do you think the parents of the perpetrator were sticking around for a repeat of April 1994 mon ami? "The scale and brutality of the genocide caused shock worldwide, but no country intervened to forcefully stop the killings. Most of the victims were killed in their own villages or towns, many by their neighbours and fellow villagers. Hutu gangs searched out victims hiding in churches and school buildings. The militia murdered victims with machetes and rifles. s-e-xual violence was rife, with an estimated 250,000 to 500,000 women raped during the genocide. The RPF quickly resumed the civil war once the genocide started and captured all government territory, ending the genocide and forcing the government and genocidaires into Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo)."

Give your head a wobble please.

I read all about it many years ago mon ami, truly horrendous, but thanks for the history lesson anyway. I'd have been out of Rwanda at the very first opportunity, if not sooner, but his parents stuck around for eight years after the genocide, I have no idea why, have you ?

[mnrht]

It's too simplistic to blame these atrocities on cannabis and immigrants. Three of the worst of the many that have happened here in the USA, Columbine(14 HS students0, Sandy Hook 22 children age 6 or 7 plus 6 teachers , the Las Vegas concert shooting 60 killed, were carried out by people who weren't immigrants or cannabis users. The Las Vegas one by a 65yr old man with no record. Setting fire to buildings housing immigrants, racial attacks, are not solutions to the immigrant problem which obviously exists.

[sinkov]

"The failure to stop the 9/11 terrorist plot was blamed in large part on a failure to connect the intelligence dots. Now, a similar failure is preventing the country from recognizing what is behind the massive increase in mass shootings: the increasing legalization and potency of marijuana. The connection should be obvious. A new study backed by the National Institute on Drug Abuse estimates that 30% of schizophrenia cases in men aged 21 to 30 are linked to cannabis addiction."

"Meanwhile, marijuana has become far more potent than it was only a few years ago. According to the NIDA, smoking marijuana leads not only to schizophrenia but also paranoia and other psychotic disorders at a rate five times greater than among those who do not smoke pot.

The potency of weed depends on the amount of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the main compound responsible for the drug’s psychoactive effects. Based on random samplings of marijuana seized by law enforcement, the potency of pot has increased from about 4% THC in 1995 to more than 15% in 2021, according to the NIDA.

Newer products called marijuana concentrates can have THC levels as high as 85% to 90%.

It often takes a while for marijuana use by mass shooters to come out, either through autopsies that may or may not detect it or from random news reports based on media interviews with family members and friends of mass shooters.

Most autopsies do not include screening for the presence of cannabis. Nor are journalists, many of whom smoke marijuana, eager to ask about marijuana use for stories on mass shooting incidents.

But marijuana use has been linked to a number mass shooters, including the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooter in Florida, who killed 17 people; the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooter, who killed 12; the Umpqua Community College shooter in Oregon, who killed nine; the Texas church shooter who killed 26 people; and the Pulse nightclub shooter in Orlando, Florida, who killed 49 people.

A 2020 Secret Service study of mass attacks found that nearly half of the perpetrators had a history of substance abuse, including with marijuana and illicit drugs."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...marijuana-leg/

[mnrht]

No doubt about it Sinkov drug users are high on the list of the deranged. The problem seems to be nobody knows what turns them in that direction in the first place. Hitler didn't seem to have a problem getting recruits for the Einsatzgruppen who were quite happy to murder women and children by the thousand, no drugs involved there but plenty of warped minds full of irrational hatred. Once we start thinking of groups instead of individuals we are on a very dangerous and downward path imo.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I have not seen such mob hatred on our streets before across the UK and it's organised by pfhuckers such as Robinson & Farage.

Robinson even had the gall to text his troops whilst soaking up the sun in Ayi Napa.

How anyone can justify this sort of violence and mayhem needs a trip to a vet and get put down.

[ballcock]

I can't justify the violence but I can see what is behind it

It all stems from BLM rallies and the violence that it brought 4 years ago, the police and the politicians back then took the knee to those louts. Then you have the Palestinian mob who think they can do and say what the hell they like in our cities and towns and get little or no greif from the police or politicians.

Has soon as the white British take to the streets to protest they are labelled has far right yobs, or if your opinion isn't one of embracing immigration has a good thing, then you are called far right or a racist

If Starmer thinks that he can get away with 2 tier policing and blatant discrimination of the white majority, through media and TV, he is in for a tough 5 years.

[army88]

I have not seen such mob hatred on our streets before across the UK and it's organised by pfhuckers such as Robinson & Farage.

Robinson even had the gall to text his troops whilst soaking up the sun in Ayi Napa.

How anyone can justify this sort of violence and mayhem needs a trip to a vet and get put down.

Ridiculous BT they didn’t organise anything nor do they condone violence - I posted when we had this debate many moons back regarding black youths drugs gangs and rape and knife crime -

People have had enough - all people that is - the problem we have is that nothing gets done or sorted out and the idiots have now latched on to this and stoked up the mob.

Strange isn’t it that 100/thousands of years gone by it still comes back to the same thing - in Rome they said control the mob and you control Rome and even today it’s the same or it’s going that way.

Incidentally all the adagy to Hitler is not the same as this - he killed the Jewish people with the Nazis but let’s not forget they were kill or ill kill you ( your either with me or your not - rule with fear ).

This situation is not like that.

[sinkov]

No doubt about it Sinkov drug users are high on the list of the deranged. The problem seems to be nobody knows what turns them in that direction in the first place. Hitler didn't seem to have a problem getting recruits for the Einsatzgruppen who were quite happy to murder women and children by the thousand, no drugs involved there but plenty of warped minds full of irrational hatred. Once we start thinking of groups instead of individuals we are on a very dangerous and downward path imo.

I have no agenda here Tap, I've simply noted that in the search for explanations for these horrendous acts, although the perpetrator is often a cannabis user it is never highlighted, always swept under the carpet. Far right extremism, Islamic terrorism, homophobia, lax gun laws, lone wolf whack jobs, the list goes on, but never cannabis use, although that is by far the most common denominator in these tragedies. I just find it very odd, why so many seem so determined that the role of cannabis in these tragedies shall not be examined is a bit of a mystery to me. But there it is.