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    Jess Phillips on the bias of reporting and the blind eye turned by the elite. Spot on.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/0...of-the-elites/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    No, what I can ‘square off’ is the fact that the subject of Dal Babu’s comment was the cowardly bully boy thugs who deliberately target women who they perceive to be weaker. The subject of your comment, in comparison, was that he was trying to make a special case for women. He wasn’t.

    The strength factor is true enough in sport where - in rugby, cricket, football, boxing, athletics, tennis etc - the best man will always, or invariably, beat the best woman. It isn’t the same in policing where levels of training, protective clothing and equipment all play a huge part.
    You're turning into a regular Bobby Riggs before my very eyes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    That quite honestly RA is poor at best.

    Headteachers/lorry drivers/ piloting ? Please show me where physical attributes affect the female genda there? There were women pilots in WW2 ffs, . They may not not have been front line pilots , but contribute they did. You know damn well what I mean. The SBS/SAS/Police require humans to get hands on with humans. CAN WOMEN DO THAT JOB AS WELL AS MAN?
    They can do many many things, but to compare a head teacher geting tough, with an armed terrorist in a knife fight is laughable.

    My glee again? I have been saying for years, that trouble will come from mass migration. It isn't just here, it is all over Europe. You are your ilk, think its a magical thing and everyone will just adapt and bathe in its greatness.
    the reality is, it doesn't. Humans are tribal, like that or not. Its in the genetics.
    When you allow millions to flood a culture with another culture, all that will happen is they will seperate and carry on as before. Europe has learned this the hard way.
    Then the clash begins. Womens rights/ childrens rights/ free speech/ cultural norms. All are different all over the world.

    You and the likes of Starmer don't want to confront it and call it out.
    His speech the other day was comical, "IT'S THE HARD RIGHT THUGGERY" he droned like an automaton. This man has no personality and instead of engaging with the public, calling for peaceful calm and dialogue. He ostracised millions of people by taking sides. The mans a buffoon.
    He took sides with the BLM riots, with him and his side kicks bending the knee , whilst cities burned.

    Folks don't forget and this time, he promises to defend mosques and Muslims, yet doesn't mention anyone else? I’m

    When you go to the doctor with a pain. His job is to help your pain and find out what is causing it. This fool thinks a dose of morphine cures the problem and it will go away.

    FARAGE is correct, (not that you'll watch it)

    https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/p...2a7aad28aea27e
    1) Where have I compared a head teacher getting tough with an armed terrorist in a knife fight?

    2) I’ve been in Europe for four of the last six weeks. The only trouble I’ve seen has been back in the UK on TV with those you support attacking mosques, police vehicles and hotels.

    3) How can Starmer not take sides? Any decent minded individual would stand opposed to what we are currently seeing on our streets. For you of all people to call him a ‘buffoon’ is laughable and for you not to utterly condemn right wing thugs involving themselves in arson and, imo, attempted murder speaks volumes.

    P.S. Against my better judgement I watched some of Farage’s stomach churning interview. Wake up Tricky…it’s nothing more than ‘I told you so’ GB News/Farage TV. Who in their right mind would take notice of that?
    Last edited by ramAnag; 06-08-2024 at 03:36 PM.

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    How can anyone compare the BLM protests that happened here with the current riots?

    They were mostly peaceful, certainly have no recollection of cities burning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    How can anyone compare the BLM protests that happened here with the current riots?
    Because they’re made by the same mouth almighty ‘source’ that calls female police officers ‘pathetic’. He’s been banging on about the BLM campaign for ever and now he’s quoting ‘Spiked’.
    I advise people to ask themselves…who would you trust more, Michael Holding or Tricky? No brainier for me.

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    I'm not sure I should be responding on the matter of "riots" as it's going wat off rA thread purpose but a few thoughts.

    1) in my view there is no sense in destroying things, making people's lives more difficult and so on for any "cause". Such gives that cause a bad name (eg also just stop oil protests);
    2) most of the time the rioting has little to do with the cause - just an excuse for those so minded to fight/destroy property or loot BUT included in the corps of rioters are peaceful protesters who have a cause that needs to be heard out;
    3) separation of causes from methodology is crucial. At the heart of all protests are genuine grievances which are being ill served by the methods of protest. But sometimes it may be the only way to make people listen. If governments, authorities etc actually listened to the voice of the people and either acted on them or explained the no action we'd be closer to democracy. Unfortunately politicians generally seem to try to tell people what's right for them, sometimes despite it not being so;
    4) some causes transcend my three thoughts above - eg to combat widespread political or social oppression;
    65) we need to stop blaming every riot on the far right. Sure they are prominent now but they didn't invent the genre. Look at Blackburn and other hotbeds of Islamic fundamentalism evolving. Just as bad, let's not delude ourselves;
    6) Sith - your description of BLM protests doesn't accord with my very limited experience of the tail end of one I got caught up in in London. Very charged anti white atmosphere and far from peacable
    - but no doubt this will be cast aside as anecdotal;
    7) I experienced the riots in Croydon (and across England) in summer 2011. Certainly not right wing orchestrated A boiling over of anger turned into wanton destruction and theft of and from the very communities that many lived in. For years after I would revisit those areas and see the absence of businesses serving that community and hear the very residents who caused it moaning about it.

    Rioting is not the domain of one extremist group, let's remember that whilst criticising the current **** stirrers. It's a self defeating method of protest and disenfranchises those with grievances by taking the focus away from that grievance and onto the destruction/looting.

    As some bloke once said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Is it any more or less acceptable to protest the murder of 3 children by attacking the temporary home of immigrant groups and possibly killing innocent children therein (although thankfully not).

    The cause of rational debate on multiculturalism and immigration is irreparably damaged by these actions, which just polarises opinion and buries an issue that a seemingly fast growing number of people (not just the far right) want airing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    I'm not sure I should be responding on the matter of "riots" as it's going wat off rA thread purpose but a few thoughts.

    1) in my view there is no sense in destroying things, making people's lives more difficult and so on for any "cause". Such gives that cause a bad name (eg also just stop oil protests);
    2) most of the time the rioting has little to do with the cause - just an excuse for those so minded to fight/destroy property or loot BUT included in the corps of rioters are peaceful protesters who have a cause that needs to be heard out;
    3) separation of causes from methodology is crucial. At the heart of all protests are genuine grievances which are being ill served by the methods of protest. But sometimes it may be the only way to make people listen. If governments, authorities etc actually listened to the voice of the people and either acted on them or explained the no action we'd be closer to democracy. Unfortunately politicians generally seem to try to tell people what's right for them, sometimes despite it not being so;
    4) some causes transcend my three thoughts above - eg to combat widespread political or social oppression;
    65) we need to stop blaming every riot on the far right. Sure they are prominent now but they didn't invent the genre. Look at Blackburn and other hotbeds of Islamic fundamentalism evolving. Just as bad, let's not delude ourselves;
    6) Sith - your description of BLM protests doesn't accord with my very limited experience of the tail end of one I got caught up in in London. Very charged anti white atmosphere and far from peacable
    - but no doubt this will be cast aside as anecdotal;
    7) I experienced the riots in Croydon (and across England) in summer 2011. Certainly not right wing orchestrated A boiling over of anger turned into wanton destruction and theft of and from the very communities that many lived in. For years after I would revisit those areas and see the absence of businesses serving that community and hear the very residents who caused it moaning about it.

    Rioting is not the domain of one extremist group, let's remember that whilst criticising the current **** stirrers. It's a self defeating method of protest and disenfranchises those with grievances by taking the focus away from that grievance and onto the destruction/looting.

    As some bloke once said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Is it any more or less acceptable to protest the murder of 3 children by attacking the temporary home of immigrant groups and possibly killing innocent children therein (although thankfully not).

    The cause of rational debate on multiculturalism and immigration is irreparably damaged by these actions, which just polarises opinion and buries an issue that a seemingly fast growing number of people (not just the far right) want airing
    Not sure what that first sentence means GP and it’s probably not important, but I think you make some fair points.

    You’re right that not all rioting has, historically, been ‘right wing orchestrated’…but what is happening now has been.
    The rioting, and disinformation which led to it, in Southport was, imo, particularly callous and disgraceful…and I believe the timing across the country within a month of Labour winning a huge majority is deeply suspicious.
    I fear there are ‘dark forces’ at work here, just as there were with Brexit, and I sense Farage and Robinson are just the tip of the iceberg.

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    " I fear there are ‘dark forces’ at work here, just as there were with Brexit, and I sense Farage and Robinson are just the tip of the iceberg."

    Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't all after you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    an issue that a seemingly fast growing number of people (not just the far right) want airing
    Social media has, for good or ill depending on one’s POV, let the genie out of the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    " I fear there are ‘dark forces’ at work here, just as there were with Brexit, and I sense Farage and Robinson are just the tip of the iceberg."

    Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't all after you.....
    You may mock…but remember the name of Robert Mercer, less well known than Elon Musk but no less sinister, and what goes on at 55 Tufton Street.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 06-08-2024 at 07:12 PM.

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