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Thread: Bobby Zamora on the rise of Luke Williams

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I think the character of a manager is massively underrated in today's data-driven world. Luke was so likeable and inspirational, it's not hard to see how the team would go that extra mile when playing for him. I think it's possible to build a good team with an uninspiring coach, but an inspirational coach can turn them into a great team through force of personality alone.
    With the rise of AI, managers with character will likely become even further marginalised from the game. Logically however there has to come a point where AI is 100% trusted to interpret as well as present the data and to make the decisions, then nobody is getting any advantage out of it anymore because all clubs are using the same tool coming to the same conclusions. I guess that will be the point where you'd be looking to characters to give you an extra edge on your opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    With the rise of AI, managers with character will likely become even further marginalised from the game. Logically however there has to come a point where AI is 100% trusted to interpret as well as present the data and to make the decisions, then nobody is getting any advantage out of it anymore because all clubs are using the same tool coming to the same conclusions. I guess that will be the point where you'd be looking to characters to give you an extra edge on your opponents.
    The data can point out of a coach/manager is outperforming from his/her group of players which could be extremely good coaching, good leadership skills or both.
    I think we and other clubs will always ask for references and talk to people in the game to find out if the players or managers have the key personality traits.
    I said when SM came it didn’t matter where he came from if he was a good leader. I can’t say I’m sure on it, there’s different kind of leaders but basically you need players to believe in their direction/instructions and feel they will give everything for them.

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    Im not sure connecting cables compares to working with young offenders

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRoadsider View Post
    Im not sure connecting cables compares to working with young offenders
    I'm not sure it matters either way. Both Williams and Maynard put in some serious graft to get where they are.

    There's clearly a difference in terms of character though, but that's not because Maynard is especially dull but because Luke was especially charismatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I'm not sure it matters either way. Both Williams and Maynard put in some serious graft to get where they are.

    There's clearly a difference in terms of character though, but that's not because Maynard is especially dull but because Luke was especially charismatic.
    Thats a reasonable point, but Id still have SM on the Beige colour chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRoadsider View Post
    Thats a reasonable point, but Id still have SM on the Beige colour chart.
    I'd say he's slightly more engaging than Birchnall or Ardley, which isn't saying much.

    Ardley was way too downbeat and negative. Birchnall almost seemed uninterested at times. I get the feeling Maynard is genuinely enthusiastic about the project at least and has a bit more positive energy overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I'd say he's slightly more engaging than Birchnall or Ardley, which isn't saying much.

    Ardley was way too downbeat and negative. Birchnall almost seemed uninterested at times. I get the feeling Maynard is genuinely enthusiastic about the project at least and has a bit more positive energy overall.
    Ardley came from a Wimbledon side that was struggling as a small fish in a big pond to Notts that was a complete basket case at the beginning. It's probably hard to shake off that negative feeling.

    Birchnall is a coach at heart, not a head coach, there is a big difference I feel.

    Maynard I think Is overwhelmed by the task at hand so kind of appears like a deer in headlights. As he grows into the job, he'll probably come across better. I think Williams came across as more assured from the get go which helped calm supporters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Ardley came from a Wimbledon side that was struggling as a small fish in a big pond to Notts that was a complete basket case at the beginning. It's probably hard to shake off that negative feeling.

    Birchnall is a coach at heart, not a head coach, there is a big difference I feel.

    Maynard I think Is overwhelmed by the task at hand so kind of appears like a deer in headlights. As he grows into the job, he'll probably come across better. I think Williams came across as more assured from the get go which helped calm supporters
    Agree with all of the above. Ardley looked like he needed a long holiday when he signed up with Notts, and it all went downhill from there.

    Birch definitely a coach. Just not engaging or direct enough to be a head coach.

    Maynard looks more relaxed and confident now than we he first arrived "in the building", which isn't surprising given the magnitude of the step up and who he was replacing. I believe he's a talented coach and seems very detail-oriented and diligent, but whether he has what it takes to drive a team to promotion, I have no idea. I suspect not, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Ardley came from a Wimbledon side that was struggling as a small fish in a big pond to Notts that was a complete basket case at the beginning. It's probably hard to shake off that negative feeling.

    Birchnall is a coach at heart, not a head coach, there is a big difference I feel.

    Maynard I think Is overwhelmed by the task at hand so kind of appears like a deer in headlights. As he grows into the job, he'll probably come across better. I think Williams came across as more assured from the get go which helped calm supporters
    I don’t think so much about the task at hand now but still with the media. I think you saw a different version of him with Paul Mace and more himself. He’s enthusiastic, honest, clearly hard working and probably a very good coach which should go a long way hopefully as was LW and he came across with the X factor too, but again maybe not so much in earlier interviews.

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