Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

No wonder Farage is not interested in serving the people of Clacton as a constituency MP!

Nigel Farage appears to have become the highest-earning MP, having made almost £1.2m a year from GB News.

In the first register of interests of the new parliament, the Reform UK MP declared that he was earning £97,900 a month as a presenter for GB News, the channel co-owned by the hedge fund billionaire Paul Marshall.

Farage also revealed that his visit to the US on 17 July – in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump – cost £32,000 and was funded by Christopher Harborne, a Thailand-based crypto investor who previously gave millions to the Brexit party. The purpose was recorded as “to support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage”.

A further £9,250 trip to the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels in April was funded by George Cottrell, an unofficial aide to Farage.

Cottrell, a high-profile figure in Farage’s entourage, spent eight months in an American jail in 2017 after being convicted of offering money-laundering services on the dark web. The crime was committed in 2014, before Cottrell worked for either the anti-EU party or Farage.


Of course all these people paying him are very obviously deeply concerned with the plight of the average person in the UK! How can Thicky and his ilk be so deluded?

[Geoff Parkstone]

No wonder Farage is not interested in serving the people of Clacton as a constituency MP!

Nigel Farage appears to have become the highest-earning MP, having made almost £1.2m a year from GB News.

In the first register of interests of the new parliament, the Reform UK MP declared that he was earning £97,900 a month as a presenter for GB News, the channel co-owned by the hedge fund billionaire Paul Marshall.

Farage also revealed that his visit to the US on 17 July – in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump – cost £32,000 and was funded by Christopher Harborne, a Thailand-based crypto investor who previously gave millions to the Brexit party. The purpose was recorded as “to support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage”.

A further £9,250 trip to the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels in April was funded by George Cottrell, an unofficial aide to Farage.

Cottrell, a high-profile figure in Farage’s entourage, spent eight months in an American jail in 2017 after being convicted of offering money-laundering services on the dark web. The crime was committed in 2014, before Cottrell worked for either the anti-EU party or Farage.


Of course all these people paying him are very obviously deeply concerned with the plight of the average person in the UK! How can Thicky and his ilk be so deluded?

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

[Andy_Faber]

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

ausschneiden und einfügen

[ramAnag]

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

Thanks for providing the whole article, GP, always good to get the whole picture…but it hardly discredits Swale does it?
The majority of the article is about Farage and his income streams/sources. The point Swale is making is surely about Farage and the question of whether he is actually providing a ‘service’ or ‘feathering his own nest’…again!

That point stands and is what anyone who has concerns about the behaviour of our elected representatives and their ‘influencers’ should be concerned by.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think my point was more that it's blatant unattributed plagiarism. Purely by chance cut from an article I read in the original very recently, so it was fresh in my mind.

I don't dispute the validity of questions about Farage and others political funding, but I've always thought it was a forum rule that sources were acknowledged (some sort of IP breach protection for FM?)

BUT it's hardly a surprise, all political campaigns are run on the back of donors who have vested interests at heart. And it's disclosed, which is refreshing. So is it necessarily wrong or is it just that financial support for a candidate that the author doesn't like makes it wrong? The politics of envy ?

[ramAnag]

I think my point was more that it's blatant unattributed plagiarism. Purely by chance cut from an article I read in the original very recently, so it was fresh in my mind.

I don't dispute the validity of questions about Farage and others political funding, but I've always thought it was a forum rule that sources were acknowledged (some sort of IP breach protection for FM?)

BUT it's hardly a surprise, all political campaigns are run on the back of donors who have vested interests at heart. And it's disclosed, which is refreshing. So is it necessarily wrong or is it just that financial support for a candidate that the author doesn't like makes it wrong? The politics of envy ?

Fair enough…but if that was your point you didn’t make it very well as the majority of your post didn’t mention plagiarism, but was trying to somehow square the circle with mention of Starmer’s Taylor Swift tickets and portray Swale as some sort of propogandist.

I’d suggest we ALL plagiarise to an extent, otherwise this forum would just be a collection of attachments, and it’s hardly the ‘politics of envy’ to expose the questionable behaviour of an MP…but then I remember you defending Boris Johnson and telling us all what a ‘nice chap’ he was.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I have to say that I have huge sympathy for Starmer if he had to go see Swift. Hopefully he could flog the tickets on the grey market for a tidy surplus...

Or it would have been amusing to give the tickets to some homeless street people who no doubt would be of great benefit to the political shenanigans of the FA

[swaledale]

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

Somehow I selectively posted? Mm well done sunshine, I was making the point about Farage and his funding

And your point is? other than to ignore the reason why I did the post, it seems you rush to defend an MP who by most people's calculation is working a min of 30hrs per week on matters other than his MP's job. Yes indeed, your quick aren't you? Farage is funded by donors with questionable motives, as I point out ones hardly aligned with the politics that Farage supposedly puts forward.

At least its disclosed? Mm as an MP Farage has no choice but to make financial disclosures, its a requirement of being an elected MP, so no credit to Farage he is forced to do it!!

The information is publicly available, so not really much point in me retyping it is there?

**** me, you ****ers whine when I post stuff and question its validity, then carp on when I post publicly available information without retyping the whole ****ing lot!

Yet somehow you still don't see the issue here.

I mean yes the Labour party has donors who have a political agenda, the thing is, that agenda tends to be in line with what the Labour party stands for, whereas reading Farage's funding and only a complete idiot would not ask the question, why are dubious billionaires and a media organisation owned by a right wing billionaire and whose agenda is to push a (largely false) agenda funding Farage?

As I said, what on earth makes certain people, like Thicky who complain about how politics and an "elite" is "against" the so called ordinary citizen, believe that Farage and his private company masquerading as a political party is remotely interested in advancing the case for the "ordinary" person?

But then maybe your too stupid to understand that? or to keen to criticise me, for posting the facts?

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale. WTF are you on about? Are you claiming that what I have posted isn't true? Because it is, its factual, so not propaganda is it?

Is it because I ahve only referred to Farage? If so, maybe that's because I am making a point about Farage? I'm not talking about Starmer, or labour or the Tories or the Lib Dems. I'm using facts to back up my view that Farage isn't in politics to improve the lives of the disadvantaged.

Sometimes in your rush to appear clever, you do make yourself look rather foolish.

[swaledale]

I think my point was more that it's blatant unattributed plagiarism. Purely by chance cut from an article I read in the original very recently, so it was fresh in my mind.

I don't dispute the validity of questions about Farage and others political funding, but I've always thought it was a forum rule that sources were acknowledged (some sort of IP breach protection for FM?)

BUT it's hardly a surprise, all political campaigns are run on the back of donors who have vested interests at heart. And it's disclosed, which is refreshing. So is it necessarily wrong or is it just that financial support for a candidate that the author doesn't like makes it wrong? The politics of envy ?

No you were trying to be clever, as is your usual approach and rather spectacularly failed. All the information is publicly available I merely saved myself from retyping it. The article merely highlights the information, I added my own view as what that information shows.

But you failed to grasp the point being made here, which is that " man of the people" and anti "elite" Farage is being funded by people and or organisations that on the face of it are at odds with his political aims and those of Reform.

But clerly your too dim to understand that?

[swaledale]

Fair enough…but if that was your point you didn’t make it very well as the majority of your post didn’t mention plagiarism, but was trying to somehow square the circle with mention of Starmer’s Taylor Swift tickets and portray Swale as some sort of propogandist.

I’d suggest we ALL plagiarise to an extent, otherwise this forum would just be a collection of attachments, and it’s hardly the ‘politics of envy’ to expose the questionable behaviour of an MP…but then I remember you defending Boris Johnson and telling us all what a ‘nice chap’ he was.

Hardly RA, for a start the information I've posted is merely repeating the publicly available information, I'm not plagiarising someone else's views.

If GP thinks being funded by dodgy billionaires with extreme right wing views is normal, then he doesn't really understand what's going on here.