Ot government cuts

[animallittle3]

Who would have thought Kier Starlin would lie hey?
Remember the debate when Sunak who I have no time for either warned everyone he is lying.
Yep he was right Kier Starlin the man who basically told a pack of lies to appeal the dumb to achieve the desired outcome.
Working class values 🤣🤣🤣 voted for by delusional people.

I don't believe there was any love for Starmer and the Labour Party going in to the election , it was a case of holding your nose just to get the Tories out .

The Tories full deserved the hiding they got from the electorate and I don't think many people would disagree with that .

We simply had to pick the least worst Party because that's what our voting system requires us to do , we've no choice but to vote in that manner .

Even Reform voters actually voted for Labour in reality because they split the Tory vote giving Labour a clear run to the line .

So in my opinion Reform voters are just as complicit in electing Starmer , anybody with an eye on politics would have seen how it was going to aid the Labour Party by voting Reform .

Farage and Tice also knew that but they were more bothered about punnishing the Tories above anything else .

[RU66]

I didn't vote cause I won't vote Conservative but I told brother who voted Labour & a few others state pension age Rishi wouldn't sh*t on the pensioners cause he needed their vote. Starmer he's saying we need train drivers NH but his way of thinking some pensioners can go without heat or food this winter to help fund their pay rises.

[animallittle3]

I didn't vote cause I won't vote Conservative but I told brother who voted Labour & a few others state pension age Rishi wouldn't sh*t on the pensioners cause he needed their vote. Starmer he's saying we need train drivers NH but his way of thinking some pensioners can go without heat or food this winter to help fund their pay rises.

The WFA abolishment is a pretty ill conceived policy in my opinion , I take the point it will be means tested but it's still a very badly advised policy .

Pensioners by definition will have high energy prices because they aren't out at work all day and tend to spend winters in doors , not every pensioner is on a cruise in the Caribbean in January .

They tend to feel the cold a bit more than younger people .

[Heliosphan]

Earn ,£60000 and get child benefit.
Bit of a joke really.

Have £100,000 in the bank and receive £500 in "help" to pay winter fuel.

Bit of a joke really.

Are you just sad you've lost your Christmas bonus? 😁

[OneJohnnyQuinn]

Have £100,000 in the bank and receive £500 in "help" to pay winter fuel.

Bit of a joke really.

Are you just sad you've lost your Christmas bonus? 😁

So you think every pensioner has 100000 in the bank .bit of a joke really

[Heliosphan]

So you think every pensioner has 100000 in the bank .bit of a joke really

Errrm nope. Did I say that?

It should been means tested years ago is the point.

[UlleyMiller]

In a nutshell:

Doesn't affect me - "Well, we have to get the economy sorted somehow..."
Does affect me - "Same old *insert party/person/illuminati-esque conspiracy theory overlord*, always hurting the ones who don't deserve it"

Every working class person gets hit by something eventually, whether it's the WF payment for pensioners no triple lock style protection on wages for workers, or house prices being stupidly high for younger workers.

The dumbest thing working class people do is carve themselves up into groups (some thinking they're middle class because they earn a bit more, some because of migrants, some purely based on age) and bicker amongst themselves whilst the f***ers in the superyachts, the pricks who amass billions before moving to Texas to alleviate tax obligations, and the a$$holes killing the game we're here to talk about, all cruise around with barely any animosity going their way.

Stop glorifying billionaires and centimillionaires, and stop thinking another working class demographic has an easier time.

[RU66]

Errrm nope. Did I say that?

It should been means tested years ago is the point.

That's what I've said anyone on state pension whose income annually is less than the national living wage should get the fuel allowance. Anyone on above that don't need it.

[millersrus]

It’s a sad state of affairs that now, well into the computer age we don’t have sytstems that can distinguish between the ones in need and those that are not so benefits can be distributed accordingly, saving money all round.
Third world or what.

[UlleyMiller]

It’s a sad state of affairs that now, well into the computer age we don’t have sytstems that can distinguish between the ones in need and those that are not so benefits can be distributed accordingly, saving money all round.
Third world or what.

Whatever age we live in, people will always present their finances to suit the audience. Rich people act poor, self-employed people will act rich when securing mortgages and poor when paying tax, and people who avoid work at all costs will always let the state know how broke they are. Finances can be very complex for pensioners, especially when you start weighing in assets.