Straw poll: Maynard in or out?

[carnthepies]

I think I've posted this elsewhere, but Maynard walked into such a difficult situation. Probably a far more difficult one than he realised when he was offered the job. When he arrived, I imagine directors, players and fans alike all wanted him to address the defensive issues, and to an extent he did. We generally looked far less open and teams stopped looking like they'd score every time they countered. But unfortunately, the individual errors carried on and we continued to concede. In hindsight, our best chance of success would have been *not* to try and sort the defending out, and continue to go for all out attack. But Maynard would have been absolutely pilloried for doing that too. He couldn't really win.

To be fair to the players, I think most of them seemed to understand what he was trying to do and even during the worst part of last season it never really looked he'd lost them.

[Boomerangpie]

Some people are married to their ideas. I wanted him gone at one stage last season but delighted to reassess after the good results near the end of the season 😛

That is very true some fans quickly develop a view on a player or head coach or even the head of recruitment and then steadfast refuse to revise or reassess even if evidence strongly suggests they should.

Perhaps that much needed uptick in form at the very end of last season did more benefit than just to arrest the slide down the table. Potentially it has a longer knock on effect on the existing players in the squad going into this season.

[queenslandpie]

I think I've posted this elsewhere, but Maynard walked into such a difficult situation. Probably a far more difficult one than he realised when he was offered the job. When he arrived, I imagine directors, players and fans alike all wanted him to address the defensive issues, and to an extent he did. We generally looked far less open and teams stopped looking like they'd score every time they countered. But unfortunately, the individual errors carried on and we continued to concede. In hindsight, our best chance of success would have been *not* to try and sort the defending out, and continue to go for all out attack. But Maynard would have been absolutely pilloried for doing that too. He couldn't really win.

To be fair to the players, I think most of them seemed to understand what he was trying to do and even during the worst part of last season it never really looked he'd lost them.

Not wrong.

We lost the most popular manager we'd had ( and rightly so) certainly since Cotterill possibly since Warnock. We replaced him with an appointment at the time which was basically WTF who then lost a load of games. My view on anything like this for some time and way before Maynard was to trust the judgement of our owners. As they are quite possibly the only owners in my entire lifetime who's judgement is more right than wrong. I think if people stick with that they will be ok. You can still have an opinion but these guys are quite amazing with how they go about things. And I am certain they are in it for the very long haul. We deserve it as well.

[tripie]

He'd had 12 games in charge at that point, double the amount this season so far. I should have posted the 12 game current form table, which we were also rock bottom of. And we went on to lose the next game after this thread began and drew the one after that.
Let's not forget also that Fullarton was sacked with a better record than Maynard after the same number played.

If you include the last 5 games of last season the record is W7 D3 L2. One of the losses being to Stockport who we don't need to worry about this season. Two points a game over 12 games is pretty impressive and for most rational people would be cause for optimism.

[Old_pie]

I think I've posted this elsewhere, but Maynard walked into such a difficult situation. Probably a far more difficult one than he realised when he was offered the job. When he arrived, I imagine directors, players and fans alike all wanted him to address the defensive issues, and to an extent he did. We generally looked far less open and teams stopped looking like they'd score every time they countered. But unfortunately, the individual errors carried on and we continued to concede. In hindsight, our best chance of success would have been *not* to try and sort the defending out, and continue to go for all out attack. But Maynard would have been absolutely pilloried for doing that too. He couldn't really win.

To be fair to the players, I think most of them seemed to understand what he was trying to do and even during the worst part of last season it never really looked he'd lost them.

Good post from a new member. It may well have been in LW's thinking that he could go no further with that team. It had been given a chance after the NL success and likely it was overperforming somewhat with the euphoria and optimism of a new season, helped by some non-challenging opposition.

SM probably hoped to build on that and initially he said he only needed to tweak but the problem obviously was bigger than expected plus possibly some shock to the system that LW had gone. Having seen that promotion was off the menu the only sensible option was to start developing a style ready for the following season but unfortunately too many players were not up to it.

Still early days but obviously shows promise especially as almost a new defence still has to fully gel. The Bros and Montague are still learning but their confidence in trading players in and strengthening the squad with the proceeds must be running high. Their system is working at just about every level and they are prepared to sustain it then it bodes well for when we go up another level.

[maddogslater]

We're very lucky to have these owners, absolutely brilliant and absolutely bizarre some on here were questioning their commitment to the club

[crazyfists]

This season answer is in, he's doing great and changes formation/players to win. It helps having a decent defence for the first time in years but he's doing really well and couldn't be more happy for him.

[Boomerangpie]

We're very lucky to have these owners, absolutely brilliant and absolutely bizarre some on here were questioning their commitment to the club

UTM

Incredibly fortunate, if some fans can’t see it then there is no hope for them

[Med Pie]

I think I've posted this elsewhere, but Maynard walked into such a difficult situation. Probably a far more difficult one than he realised when he was offered the job. When he arrived, I imagine directors, players and fans alike all wanted him to address the defensive issues, and to an extent he did. We generally looked far less open and teams stopped looking like they'd score every time they countered. But unfortunately, the individual errors carried on and we continued to concede. In hindsight, our best chance of success would have been *not* to try and sort the defending out, and continue to go for all out attack. But Maynard would have been absolutely pilloried for doing that too. He couldn't really win.

To be fair to the players, I think most of them seemed to understand what he was trying to do and even during the worst part of last season it never really looked he'd lost them.

I think it's fortunate for SM that the season ended when it did. Had he been forced to persist with that defence, he'd have been done, they'd have got most managers sacked. Whether ot not he had 'lost the dressing room' is irrelevant, they simply were not good enough.

[Wollat11]

I think it's fortunate for SM that the season ended when it did. Had he been forced to persist with that defence, he'd have been done, they'd have got most managers sacked. Whether ot not he had 'lost the dressing room' is irrelevant, they simply were not good enough.

That doesn't make any sense! Anyway, judging by the summer turnover the powers that be had recognised what a handicap that defence was so there was no way they were going to hold the MT responsible in my view.