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Thread: OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

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    Just by way of analysis after a number of posts on the subject IÂ’ve done a cost and time analysis of the delta between travelling to my european (Greece) holiday destination this week versus my first visit in 1990.

    Prep at home, +20 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through home airport, + 10 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through airport + 5 mins + £15 reason personal need for dedicated seat
    Flight approx -£200 allowing for inflation although this has gone way down in the 2000s and back up again reason airline strategy/profit motive
    Transport through destination airport nil although thatÂ’s probably - 10 mins historic efficiency, +5 mins reason UK not joining the Schengen Agreement , +5 mins utter jobsworth at passport control so reason ultimately lack of staff investment at destination airport.

    I offer no opinion, just analysis, happy to repeat if itÂ’s of interest

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    Just by way of analysis after a number of posts on the subject IÂ’ve done a cost and time analysis of the delta between travelling to my european (Greece) holiday destination this week versus my first visit in 1990.

    Prep at home, +20 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through home airport, + 10 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through airport + 5 mins + £15 reason personal need for dedicated seat
    Flight approx -£200 allowing for inflation although this has gone way down in the 2000s and back up again reason airline strategy/profit motive
    Transport through destination airport nil although thatÂ’s probably - 10 mins historic efficiency, +5 mins reason UK not joining the Schengen Agreement , +5 mins utter jobsworth at passport control so reason ultimately lack of staff investment at destination airport.

    I offer no opinion, just analysis, happy to repeat if itÂ’s of interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Just by way of analysis after a number of posts on the subject IÂ’ve done a cost and time analysis of the delta between travelling to my european (Greece) holiday destination this week versus my first visit in 1990.

    Prep at home, +20 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through home airport, + 10 mins, reason Islamic terrorism
    Transport through airport + 5 mins + £15 reason personal need for dedicated seat
    Flight approx -£200 allowing for inflation although this has gone way down in the 2000s and back up again reason airline strategy/profit motive
    Transport through destination airport nil although thatÂ’s probably - 10 mins historic efficiency, +5 mins reason UK not joining the Schengen Agreement , +5 mins utter jobsworth at passport control so reason ultimately lack of staff investment at destination airport.

    I offer no opinion, just analysis, happy to repeat if itÂ’s of interest
    Andy…wouldn’t it be a better use of your time to get rid of the damned ‘Â’s’ that make things unreadable, rather than tell us all that it now takes, I think, 35 mins longer than it did 34 years ago in 1990…though how you have your 1990 ‘delta’/sorry data to hand God only knows?
    Anyway…enjoy Greece.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 17-09-2024 at 08:10 PM.

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    in 2 weeks we'll be flying via Brum for a weekend in sunny Derbados. Hand luggage only. Expected timings:

    Security. Max 5 minutes.
    Passport control. Max 5 minutes.
    Murphy's Bar. 1 hour for and egg and bacon cob and 2 pints of Murphy's Red.

    Why are airports so slow?

    Return journey will see security be 20 minutes. Passport control 10 minutes. One hour in 'Spoons for an all day brunch and 2 pints of Greene King Abbott Ale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Andy…wouldn’t it be a better use of your time to get rid of the damned ‘Â’s’ that make things unreadable, rather than tell us all that it now takes, I think, 35 mins longer than it did 34 years ago in 1990…though how you have your 1990 ‘delta’/sorry data to hand God only knows?
    AnywayÂ…enjoy Greece.
    Thanks

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    Major, the globalists best friend. He was pushing France and Germany for a European superstate and was happy for us to play second fiddle to them
    Thatcher at least fought for the UK to get equal dibs. This plank was all for giving it away

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    Geert Wilders. He's spent the past 20 years out-Farridging Farridge. Brilliant at pointing out what's wrong and never, ever having a solution. He became the largest party at the November elections (I say he because he IS the party. The one and only member and no-one else can join). He is now leader of one of the 4 parties in the coalition. He's suddenly become Neo Liberal in his outlook.

    He has been pushing for a Nexit for years. Now he's in power, he's dropped it as a policy. It wasn't even in his manifesto last November.

    He always pushed to leave the Euro. That didn't make the November manifesto.

    He was anti helping Ukraine. Now in power he's said NL will support Ukraine for as long as is necessary.

    He wanted to scrap the €385 a year "excess" for medical assistance. During the election he was very forceful in saying it should be scrapped and he would do that immediately. That's now been watered down to a reduction to €165 but that won't happen until 2027. He doesn't seem to realise that the €220 reduction in the excess will be added to everybody's annual health insurance by the Insurance companies.

    He would immediately raise the minimum wage by a healthy amount. He now realises that would put a fair few folk out of a job. It hasn't been raised.

    Basically, he came across as far right in relation to immigration and his anti Islam stance and very much as a left wing socialist in his socio economic policies. Now as head of the largest party and responsible for what the government does, he's gone all neo liberal.

    IMO, Farridge would go exactly the same way if in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Geert Wilders. He's spent the past 20 years out-Farridging Farridge. Brilliant at pointing out what's wrong and never, ever having a solution. He became the largest party at the November elections (I say he because he IS the party. The one and only member and no-one else can join). He is now leader of one of the 4 parties in the coalition. He's suddenly become Neo Liberal in his outlook.

    He has been pushing for a Nexit for years. Now he's in power, he's dropped it as a policy. It wasn't even in his manifesto last November.

    He always pushed to leave the Euro. That didn't make the November manifesto.

    He was anti helping Ukraine. Now in power he's said NL will support Ukraine for as long as is necessary.

    He wanted to scrap the €385 a year "excess" for medical assistance. During the election he was very forceful in saying it should be scrapped and he would do that immediately. That's now been watered down to a reduction to €165 but that won't happen until 2027. He doesn't seem to realise that the €220 reduction in the excess will be added to everybody's annual health insurance by the Insurance companies.

    He would immediately raise the minimum wage by a healthy amount. He now realises that would put a fair few folk out of a job. It hasn't been raised.

    Basically, he came across as far right in relation to immigration and his anti Islam stance and very much as a left wing socialist in his socio economic policies. Now as head of the largest party and responsible for what the government does, he's gone all neo liberal.

    IMO, Farridge would go exactly the same way if in power.
    Who knows? Thats for voters to decide.
    We have just had it here, with the Millionaire socialist that Is Starmer, who has gone from screaming about free wallpaper, to slaughtering the last government over immigration and austerity with the poor.

    In power, gimmme gimme gimme, freebies galore. Immigration has got worse and he's removed more than anything he's done, to taking money off pensioners and giving it to train drivers and overseas on climate bollox.

    1 point of defence of Farage to your opinion. He could have ridden the EU gravy train for years like the Kinnocks. He didn't he came and told them his appointment was to reove the UK from the EU and do himself out of a job. That is exactly what he did, to the massive amount of tears from the Kinnocks in their wailing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post

    1 point of defence of Farage to your opinion. He could have ridden the EU gravy train for years like the Kinnocks. He didn't he came and told them his appointment was to reove the UK from the EU and do himself out of a job. That is exactly what he did, to the massive amount of tears from the Kinnocks in their wailing.
    ... and he and Johnson and others told lie after lie after lie to persuade the populace to vote Leave. It's the abject failure of Brexit that helped Wilders change his mind and now he's campaigning to change the EU from within rather than going for a Nexit.

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