English identity?

[ramAnag]

Beat me too it on that one. They may be born here, but their religion is more than that. It is an ideology and dictates their way of life.
We have had this conversation before, last survey I published from YOUGOV, showed 50% of UK mulsims say they are Islam first before nationality.

Islam and Jews have been allowed to have their own little courts in places, where an individuals rights will not get the same representation in a normal court. Very dangerous and does exactly the opposite of the intended integration propaganda being spouted.
Saria and Beth din are contrary to being English

Hang on…it was YOU, Tricky, who (in post #22) pointed to 81% of people identifying being born in England as making them English. I simply said that I recognised that criteria as making some sort of sense and went on to say that - by that criteria which YOU introduced - you have to accept that many Muslims are as English as you or I.
Not happy with that, you, and apparently AF, want to change the argument by saying, that’s not true because ‘they’ are Muslim first and English second which is nonsense in a debate about national identity.
Many people may be conflicted in this way. You’ve already identified Jews. I’d add to that Catholics who must have found themselves horribly conflicted over the ‘troubles’ in Northern Ireland and, in a much less important way, the majority of football fans, including most on this forum for whom the fortunes of DCFC are way more important than those of ‘Ingerland’.

But we digress. This debate, as raised by a potential future PM, is about English identity…what it is and whether it actually exists…and I can’t see how changing the proverbial ‘goalposts’ in the way you are seeking to do gets us any further forward.