Only fan- power will get rid of Evans

[Yak]

Too tempting to ignore.

"Clique", "vast majority", what are you talking about?

I don't want Evans sacked, even though I didn't welcome the prospect of his return. As with Taylor we were promised so much, but the reality is (at the moment) little evidence of any of the raised expectations being realised.

What I would like to see is more evidence that there is some sort of plan/strategy and coaching to show how it's being implemented. We have seen recent signs of more football being played on the grass, but nothing to show how the best qualities of the forwards are being used to our advantage.

You keep repeating the mantra "name a better proposition" which really is quite pointless as there would be so many variables. Perhaps the "vast majority" realise that, which is why no one responds.

I have crossed swords with mygiddy in the past so I think I can say without being accused as part of a click that he’s fairly balanced with his views and his stance on Evans is how a growing number of people feel. I really want Evans to prove me wrong and start winning games. I didn’t want him back I don’t particularly want him here but I want what’s best for my club so hope he turns it around.
It’s my first game I’ve missed in ages and have been to every away game since our last win away so of course we will win and I’ll miss it.

[UlleyMiller]

I have crossed swords with mygiddy in the past so I think I can say without being accused as part of a click that he’s fairly balanced with his views and his stance on Evans is how a growing number of people feel. I really want Evans to prove me wrong and start winning games. I didn’t want him back I don’t particularly want him here but I want what’s best for my club so hope he turns it around.
It’s my first game I’ve missed in ages and have been to every away game since our last win away so of course we will win and I’ll miss it.

Hate to say it, but I f***ing hope so!!!

[NorthWestCorner]

I'd opted out because:
1) It's a futile stand-off where 'better' options will be batted away, and
2) If the best reason to keep a manager is because he's less sh1t than other options, the wrong discussions are being had.

Ok then - don’t opt out. Give me one of your “better” options and I will consider it. Or haven’t you got one?

[UlleyMiller]

Ok then - don’t opt out. Give me one of your “better” options and I will consider it. Or haven’t you got one?

Already said it's futile. Whoever anyone says gets batted away because of a specific item, ignoring the fact Evans in the same situation has many flaws. Off the top of my head, Schumacher, Lowe, Wild would all be conversations and are free agents, there are others in jobs that would be a good fit for one reason or another. All are younger than Evans by some way and would be better suited to a longer term plan than Evans will be.

[NorthWestCorner]

All three are talented managers but I highly doubt that we could attract them which was my point.

[Stansmate]

I do take her indoors's grandson when hes down here to Argyle. As well as when Millers are there.

Both Shumaker and Lowe were loved by the fans - they brought in new young eager players playin fast entertaining football even though they almost got relegated last season.

We've got too many has beens on daft money just seein their time out.

Either of the 2 scousers would be a breath of fresh air but --- can I see TS being on the same wave length - 🤔🤔🤔

Go on TONY surprise us 👍

[UlleyMiller]

All three are talented managers but I highly doubt that we could attract them which was my point.

Which was exactly my point about the futility of throwing names in.

[mellowmiller]

All three are talented managers but I highly doubt that we could attract them which was my point.

And it's a very valid point which was illustrated pretty clearly when Warne left and we supposedly had a queue of impressive applicants but we ended up with the second choice when the first guy changed his mind. TS then sacked him when the natives got restless although personally I was glad to see him go.
The next phase was like something out of a comedy story and we eventually ended up with God knows what number choice and he inevitably went the way of the previous incumbent.
Like a few others, I don't like the idea of going back but Evans did seem like the best choice given the state the club was in at the time of his appointment and the remit that TS wanted him to fulfil.
I want him to succeed because I like my club to do well. I don't understand why some seem to want the opposite.
If it doesn't work out I think a realistic option who may fancy the challenge, would try to play attractive football and bring about some stability would be Charlie Adam.
He speaks well and gives the impression that he doesn't suffer fools gladly........although that may make him too strong a character for TS.

[NorthWestCorner]

Which was exactly my point about the futility of throwing names in.

So, there is little point in people calling for Evans’ head after a few games. We are not a club who has the investment to attract a progressive manager - we don’t have the cash or the set up (youth system). Evans is the best we could attract.

[UlleyMiller]

So, there is little point in people calling for Evans’ head after a few games. We are not a club who has the investment to attract a progressive manager - we don’t have the cash or the set up (youth system). Evans is the best we could attract.

You're missing or evading the point. People saying Evans is not right for, or not up to the job is perfectly fair - as it is for any fan of any club. The point is about the futility of offering 'better' (as you requested) options. Anyone offers a decent name, we can't attract them. Any name we logically should be able to attract, insert reason why they're poor (not proven, wrong style of football, take your pick). It's easy to bat them away because you just throw any single reason rather than look at Evans against that manager and discuss the wider ramifications.

I'm neither on or off the Evans bus. I've been open minded and offered balance when anyone has been staunchly for/against him being here, but there are facts too. We weren't his first choice - there was noise last season but he wanted to stay where he was - he became available when his last job ran to a failed attempt to get up. He's been a part of poor recruitment/retention. As someone has said, there are positives in the players we have, but that isn't the whole picture. We've got poor first line cover in some roles, and we have some sub-par players who should be operating in League 2. He's behaved badly with opposing managers and not giving away fans a clap. And we look like we're still ages away from any sort of decent, consistent football being played.

I'm not going to boo, chant for him to go, sit around anxiously waiting for him to go - the team comes first and I'll back them until my number's up. But I'm realistic about what we're looking at. He wasn't brought in as part of a longer term plan - recruitment shows that - so he is here because TS believes he can get us up (or conspiracy theories about cashing in). That's highly unlikely right now. It takes us back though, and does make it more difficult to recruit going forward. Younger, intelligent managers with any sort of ambition would have already been put off by MT and LR getting no time (especially in LR's case who inherited the mother of toxic messes), and there will always be noise about TS's behaviour which we'll likely never confirm - but bringing back a 'character' in the hope of being a cobbled-together, rags-to-riches story, what sort of manager wants to follow that? No patience from the chairman and a team full of misfits, SE hurts the recruitment for our next manager too, whenever that happens.

FWIW, Lowe, and especially Wild... really? Where should we look? Rotherham and District?