Hugill

[Brin]

Wasn't a Miller, isn't a Miller and will not be remembered as one. Can't blame him personally but at least he could pretend a bit more while he's here.

They don’t though pal. Once they’ve switched off that’s it. A case of making the club pay him up so he can do one to another club and get a decent wedge of a signing on fee as well.

[sota]

They don’t though pal. Once they’ve switched off that’s it. A case of making the club pay him up so he can do one to another club and get a decent wedge of a signing on fee as well.

Exactly, and why I don't care any more. Will be over in November with the Missus spending time in Ronnie Moore's old haunt and wondering what he thinks of all this ballox. Would love to meet up again mate and go for a tour. Cheers, Paul.

[Tigerish]

Stewart should have paid Michael Smith what he wanted. He was excellent. Instead we ended up with this.

[UlleyMiller]

Stewart should have paid Michael Smith what he wanted. He was excellent. Instead we ended up with this.

Could take that further and suggest what's ended up being spent since, could have been thrown in to an improved package for Warne and some investment to boot. Appreciate easily said in hindsight, but all that has happened since is all the more painful because of how we were doing at the start of the season he left.

We don't know the full details of the decision and reasoning, and his name seems to divide the forum, but there have been very few good days since he went.

[Brin]

Could take that further and suggest what's ended up being spent since, could have been thrown in to an improved package for Warne and some investment to boot. Appreciate easily said in hindsight, but all that has happened since is all the more painful because of how we were doing at the start of the season he left.

We don't know the full details of the decision and reasoning, and his name seems to divide the forum, but there have been very few good days since he went.

UM, thing about Smithy was he told both Stewart/Warne he would sign for the largest wage on offer to him and as a family man, I would have done the same. His contract was running down, because once again, we didn't sort anything earlier with him. How many players have we lost because of this very poor tactic from upstairs?

It wasn't about playing us off against Weds, it was always an honest open business proposition and whoever paid more got him, as simple as that. We got the first dibs on him and rightly so having brought through and made him a much stronger better player. We offered xxxx Weds offered more, we offered xxxxx Weds topped it and Warne said no that's enough as he knew what budget he had left and very sensibly, didn't let it get out of hand.

Smudge is in his twilight years now so the thought of having him back is a non starter but, he's probably still far better than anything we currently have up front for us. Shame Weds wouldn't do a player swap and we could send Hugill/JCH the other way.

[UlleyMiller]

UM, thing about Smithy was he told both Stewart/Warne he would sign for the largest wage on offer to him and as a family man, I would have done the same. His contract was running down, because once again, we didn't sort anything earlier with him. How many players have we lost because of this very poor tactic from upstairs?

It wasn't about playing us off against Weds, it was always an honest open business proposition and whoever paid more got him, as simple as that. We got the first dibs on him and rightly so having brought through and made him a much stronger better player. We offered xxxx Weds offered more, we offered xxxxx Weds topped it and Warne said no that's enough as he knew what budget he had left and very sensibly, didn't let it get out of hand.

Smudge is in his twilight years now so the thought of having him back is a non starter but, he's probably still far better than anything we currently have up front for us. Shame Weds wouldn't do a player swap and we could send Hugill/JCH the other way.

I don't blame Smith for going, and have said on here I'd have taken the exact same decision (if like him, I wasn't a fan, anyway). My point was about the sliding doors, what if thing. If I'm changing anything with a time machine and a bit of cash, Warney would be my change.

[Derbymiller]

Could take that further and suggest what's ended up being spent since, could have been thrown in to an improved package for Warne and some investment to boot. Appreciate easily said in hindsight, but all that has happened since is all the more painful because of how we were doing at the start of the season he left.

We don't know the full details of the decision and reasoning, and his name seems to divide the forum, but there have been very few good days since he went.

There were issues with Smith as there is with every player, but you cannot compare a player like Smith with Hugill. Hugill is the worst of football, Smith played for the club and gave his all during his time here, if what Brin says is true about his departure you can't blame him for that. Smith in this team, this season we won't be where we are now. I understand people on JCH, clearly there is an ego there, but he is an Evans type player and he has scored 3 goals so far, he will get 20 goals this season, Hugill won't get 20 goals between now and when he retires. The issue here is Evans talking him up, how do other players feel when they will know what type of player he is.

[MAMiller]

JCH is dog. When we had him he was raw and that's what made him good.

He's missed some very easy chances. The header yesterday, and I'm pretty sure he shanked the pen, if gk had remotely gone that side he'd have saved it.

I fail to see what he brings to the table, as whatever that is he's not doing it.

We've signed a lot of down the pecking order players. I'm OK with that we've done that before and made the sum of parts better than the individuals. When we did that though we had good coaches and managers and the spine of the team was strong.

Evans can only do that 1 way, by throwing numbers at it, keep doing it until a position sticks.

That in the end cost him his job. Leeds was a failure because he cannot get the best out of what he has, he relies on relentless recruiting, and by a department half competent and not the abject mistake ridden lot we have had the last few years.

By bonfire night things are gonna get very sour down at New York not only to manager but also to the way the club is being run.... Badly

[caytonmiller]

JCH is dog. When we had him he was raw and that's what made him good.

He's missed some very easy chances. The header yesterday, and I'm pretty sure he shanked the pen, if gk had remotely gone that side he'd have saved it.

I fail to see what he brings to the table, as whatever that is he's not doing it.

We've signed a lot of down the pecking order players. I'm OK with that we've done that before and made the sum of parts better than the individuals. When we did that though we had good coaches and managers and the spine of the team was strong.

Evans can only do that 1 way, by throwing numbers at it, keep doing it until a position sticks.

That in the end cost him his job. Leeds was a failure because he cannot get the best out of what he has, he relies on relentless recruiting, and by a department half competent and not the abject mistake ridden lot we have had the last few years.

By bonfire night things are gonna get very sour down at New York not only to manager but also to the way the club is being run.... Badly

Disagree with this. Even past players have said Evans was a horrible person. Bit would play for him again as he got the best out of them...

[OneJohnnyQuinn]

Disagree with this. Even past players have said Evans was a horrible person. Bit would play for him again as he got the best out of them...

As I all walks of life some people need an arm round their shoulder others a boot up their arse .