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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    So why isn't my reply deleted ?!
    Moderator incompetence. Do you want to edit out the Muslim bit, you do make a good point about freedom of speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Moderator incompetence. Do you want to edit out the Muslim bit, you do make a good point about freedom of speech
    The post was about 2 tier policing, not muslims.
    I think the way that woman was treated was outrageous and it is backed up by them having to pay her 10k in compo. This is the second time they have had to do so. She has been stabbed on speakers corner and no action taken.

    The country is about free speech and none more than on speakers corner, where the gloves are off within the law.

    I can show anyone the video if you like, it isn't pretty what she went through

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEHDUMIxWiI

    The government has/is allowing this and in fact has fuelled it very recently with Stamers clamp down on naughty words on Twitter etc
    Last edited by Trickytreesreds; 30-09-2024 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    The post was about 2 tier policing, not muslims.
    I think the way that woman was treated was outrageous and it is backed up by them having to pay her 10k in compo. This is the second time they have had to do so. She has been stabbed on speakers corner and no action taken.

    The country is about free speech and none more than on speakers corner, where the gloves are off within the law.

    I can show anyone the video if you like, it isn't pretty what she went through

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEHDUMIxWiI

    The government has/is allowing this and in fact has fuelled it very recently with Stamers clamp down on naughty words on Twitter etc
    As I pointed out earlier Tricky - only to have the post mysteriously removed - the two arrests of the lady in question took place long before Labour came to power. In fact I think Johnson was still PM at the time of both arrests, so it’s difficult/impossible to see how they can have anything to do with either the Election or your current obsession with Starmer and ‘two tier policing’.

    I do believe the way she has been treated to be completely wrong, indeed I think the whole story shows religion at its most ridiculous, however she has, by her actions, set out to be enormously antagonistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    As I pointed out earlier Tricky - only to have the post mysteriously removed - the two arrests of the lady in question took place long before Labour came to power. In fact I think Johnson was still PM at the time of both arrests, so it’s difficult/impossible to see how they can have anything to do with either the Election or your current obsession with Starmer and ‘two tier policing’.

    I do believe the way she has been treated to be completely wrong, indeed I think the whole story shows religion at its most ridiculous, however she has, by her actions, set out to be enormously antagonistic.
    I would agree with most of what you say there RA.
    I did type government(s).
    Sorry, the bit I disagree with, is that two tier policing is very hot at the moment and Starmer is the one in power. He himself, made space in prisons, for naughty word offenders, by releasing convicted violent offenders, He himself has enpowered more of this sort of policing, where by the easist form of policing is being taken rather than dealing with the over all problem. The woman herself is in the news having just been awarded another 10k? Did they not learn the first time, as this money comes out of our pockets.

    As for antagonistic, it seems she receives plenty of that herself and it is speakers corner. If you are within the boundaries of the law, then if you are offended, don't be there.
    I was raised Christian and though I am none practising, still hold it as part of my make up. I certainly am not offended if someone mocks it, not do I feel the need to react if it is done either. The police, should be upholding the law, not reacting politically , or in fact sitting on their hands when they should be doing something.
    Any government we have here, should be making this a corner stone of our nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    I would agree with most of what you say there RA.
    I did type government(s).
    Sorry, the bit I disagree with, is that two tier policing is very hot at the moment and Starmer is the one in power. He himself, made space in prisons, for naughty word offenders, by releasing convicted violent offenders, He himself has enpowered more of this sort of policing, where by the easist form of policing is being taken rather than dealing with the over all problem. The woman herself is in the news having just been awarded another 10k? Did they not learn the first time, as this money comes out of our pockets.

    As for antagonistic, it seems she receives plenty of that herself and it is speakers corner. If you are within the boundaries of the law, then if you are offended, don't be there.
    I was raised Christian and though I am none practising, still hold it as part of my make up. I certainly am not offended if someone mocks it, not do I feel the need to react if it is done either. The police, should be upholding the law, not reacting politically , or in fact sitting on their hands when they should be doing something.
    Any government we have here, should be making this a corner stone of our nation.
    I don’t think anyone comes out of the incident well, but my point is, it has nothing to do with either Starmer or the election.

    Also, those who’ve attacked her need, imo, to be brought to justice, but she held up a copy of the Quran in front of a group of ‘believers’ and actually drilled holes in it. Personally I don’t think it warranted what happened at all, but while you and I might not be able to relate to that in terms of the Bible…if I turned up outside the City Ground and very publicly set fire to a Forest shirt/scarf/emblem I’d expect my fight or flight instincts to be severely tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    I don’t think anyone comes out of the incident well, but my point is, it has nothing to do with either Starmer or the election.

    Also, those who’ve attacked her need, imo, to be brought to justice, but she held up a copy of the Quran in front of a group of ‘believers’ and actually drilled holes in it. Personally I don’t think it warranted what happened at all, but while you and I might not be able to relate to that in terms of the Bible…if I turned up outside the City Ground and very publicly set fire to a Forest shirt/scarf/emblem I’d expect my fight or flight instincts to be severely tested.
    Please rA, stop, any poster who quotes a internet conspiracy theory is simply beyond hope, there is no reasoning with them, they believe the bull**** because it suits their warped view of the world.

    I mean if we are on about two tier justice, he isn't frothing at the mouth because 2 protesters who threw soup at a glass covered picture to draw attention to an issue which is and will affect us all, got much longer jail sentences than a high profile news presenter did for possessing images of child abuse.

    Unfortunately the nuance and complications of life pass these people by and frankly it hurts my eyeballs to even catch a glimpse of Tricky’s nonsense.
    Last edited by Andy_Faber; 01-10-2024 at 08:55 AM. Reason: Name calling removed

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    Top late to edit but I'm not sure what word to use to replace the M word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Top late to edit but I'm not sure what word to use to replace the M word
    I’ve take the liberty of doing it; let me know if it’s ok

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