Sunderland - v - Leeds United *** Matchday Thread***

[WTF11]

Don't waste your time trying to explain....

Explain what, exactly? JUSTIFY more likely how we have squandered points that we shouldn't have in a million years? There isn't time in that million years that can explain that cr4p.

You think Guardiola would accept the kind of sh1te we saw yesterday? And the players would know it. We show occasional sparks of brilliance, surrounded by huge swathes of mundane mediocrity, and that is down to the players, NOT the coach, but where does the buck stop?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Buck stop for what?

A well run club
Good commercial revenues
A plan to improve the ground
Adidas as shirt manaufacturer
Redbull as main sponsor

Probably the best squad in the league
Depth in each position
A team that concedes few goals
We create chances (granted we don’t always take them)
We could easily have won all 9 games
We have played a lot of the top team (Burnley, Sunderland, WBA, Hull and Norwich) and yet we sit only 3 points off the top.

All this talk of accountability - did you read that in the Daily Mail.

Farke isn’t perfect and he grates on me but he is ours, not sure that there are that many proven available managers who could replace him and more importantly he is doing a fairly decent job so far with injuries to some fairly important and experienced players.

To compare Leeds in the Championship to City shows what a prime numpty you are - a club that has spent huge amounts (ergo the PL case) and has one of the ‘best’ (in terms of their but not necessarily footballs best interests).

We know you are a thrush you might feel free to stop demonstrating now with such regularity.

[spaldy]

Hop

Surely you aren’t suggesting that Citeh may have violated some of the financial rules????

They are pure as a newborn baby! Ask any Citeh fan. They will be happy to tell yo.

[WTF11]

Buck stop for what?

A well run club
Good commercial revenues
A plan to improve the ground
Adidas as shirt manaufacturer
Redbull as main sponsor

Probably the best squad in the league
Depth in each position
A team that concedes few goals
We create chances (granted we don’t always take them)
We could easily have won all 9 games
We have played a lot of the top team (Burnley, Sunderland, WBA, Hull and Norwich) and yet we sit only 3 points off the top.

All this talk of accountability - did you read that in the Daily Mail.

Farke isn’t perfect and he grates on me but he is ours, not sure that there are that many proven available managers who could replace him and more importantly he is doing a fairly decent job so far with injuries to some fairly important and experienced players.

To compare Leeds in the Championship to City shows what a prime numpty you are - a club that has spent huge amounts (ergo the PL case) and has one of the ‘best’ (in terms of their but not necessarily footballs best interests).

We know you are a thrush you might feel free to stop demonstrating now with such regularity.

Of the various aspects you mention, only that which relates to play on the pitch can be attributed to Farke. Of those, creating chances we don't convert and the limiting of opponents scoring are valid observations. The fact we are where we are in the league is as much down to teams taking points off each other as it is our performance.

And my comparison was between Farke and Guardiola in terms of their temperament and their relative willingness to accept mediocre performances and the kind of blunder that lost us the two points at Sunderland. Nothing I said extended that comparison to anything else, but don't let (lack of) accuracy of interpretation get in your way.

Oh and the thrush thing? Very humorous, you should try stand-up.

[Tichi1]

Spent an hour reading the 13 pages of comments on a Sunderland board reference the game on Friday. [ i was babysitting my granddaughter and she insists on watching effing **** Titans do I had to entertain myself...]
Overall concensus was that we where the better team and they got away with a point only due to our keeper.[No **** Sherlock]

pretty much the same opinions as on here

they also seemed to think if they end up within 10 points of us come seasons end they will have had a very good season.

And we Willy is too good for the championship

They also acknowledged the number of players we sold and our injury list when conceding that we where STILL the better team - and that was from THEIR fans

We seem to have a few very fickle ones over here.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Hop

Surely you aren’t suggesting that Citeh may have violated some of the financial rules????

They are pure as a newborn baby! Ask any Citeh fan. They will be happy to tell yo.

Hehe - they’ve spent loads but then so did Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool before them.

If they have the money and can fund it then so be it 😎

[Monaco_Totty]

Spent an hour reading the 13 pages of comments on a Sunderland board reference the game on Friday. [ i was babysitting my granddaughter and she insists on watching effing **** Titans do I had to entertain myself...]
Overall concensus was that we where the better team and they got away with a point only due to our keeper.[No **** Sherlock]

pretty much the same opinions as on here

they also seemed to think if they end up within 10 points of us come seasons end they will have had a very good season.

And we Willy is too good for the championship

They also acknowledged the number of players we sold and our injury list when conceding that we where STILL the better team - and that was from THEIR fans

We seem to have a few very fickle ones over here.

Bang on Tichi.

For a few years i went to our games & did the stats designated - so formations are an interest to me & show how Farke has tweaked us this season.
What i've noted, seen & been told from the guys who still do the stats work tells me we're on the right track with the 'players available'.

I know how Sunderland Coach Régis Le Bris sets up his teams as he was Coach at Lorient, Head Coach at the successful Rennes Academy & coached my brother at National junior levels.
His philosophy is simple & has not changed !
No mug & has created exciting times at Sunderland using raw talented kids.

1.Stats suggest Sunderland clearly dont move the ball around into advanced areas much.

2.They have fewer pass attempts into the final third than most Championship teams.

3.They dont move forward at a constant pace so their attacks alternate via quick or slow build ups.

4.They move it around close to goal starting with a 4-2-3-1 drifting into a neat 4-3-3.

5.They organise themselves in fluid triangles in their build up in every game played so far.

6.This attracts the opposition out & opens up space for them to exploit.

7.They often move their attacking deployment backwards to allow more off ball movements.

8.This allows their full backs to make underlapping runs & these "off the ball
movements" are key to their success when they get into the final third attack zone usually assisted by a third man runner coming from deep to finish off the move.

9.The draw back to their chosen formation is they can lose the ball close to their own goal & can get hit on the transition.

10.Leeds set up to play patiently for such a "transition moment" - with effect. 👍

This is what Farkes is trying to do & you can see its implementation each week via our stats for how we transition a turnover opportunity.
Start slow in possession & then accelerate as we move upfield.

Maybe boring at times but its getting results !

Good possession football played by young players with layered skill sets hopefully will produce more entertaining football - we are getting their & that's why i am more positive on here than some.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

With you MT

[Billyni]

I think we've torn the arse out of this one. (Like the rev on a night out)
Lets pick another .

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Hmmm you do like to refer to that anatomical region a lot (ponders what that could subliminally mean) 🤔🤣