Corberan and ‘Southgate’ football

[mickd1961]

Nobody is not saying Millwall don’t deserve credit - they do! That said it’s up to us to open any opposition up and you’re only going to do that with quick movement and passing. Did Boro faff around with sideways mundane football? No.

We definitely need a playmaker and I like JM but he’s not it! Swift should start and God knows why he takes Fellows off who has pace to replace him for Wallace who is slow and past it.

Last three games we have got selections wrong and reverted to the boring sideways football seen last season.

Nobody is not saying Carlos is not a top manager but the football in the last three games has been utter s hite!

I don’t think Molumby is the problem, he played with energy on Saturday and tried to break lines and get us moving.

Mowatt was the problem, he sat too deep and played with a cigar in his mouth and a brandy in his hand, no urgency at all, he’s supposed to set the tempo.

The dynamic game changer we miss is the middle of the three behind the striker like Perreira was for us.

Swift has great feet and he’s clever but he lacks pace. He is the best we have though at this role, we look devoid of ideas without him in the side.

[boingy]

I think playing away and home are two different issues. When we play away the home team is not ”allowed” to park the bus, which gives us opportunities (as eg vs QPR). When we play at home the opposition parks the bus, and we don’t seem to have any solutions to how to break that down (so far).

That’s the problem we have in a nutshell Swedish. Teams will be more than happy with a point at the Hawthorns. They’ll make it very tough for us to break them down. It is a problem.

[baggieal]

That’s the problem we have in a nutshell Swedish. Teams will be more than happy with a point at the Hawthorns. They’ll make it very tough for us to break them down. It is a problem.

Quality will break anything down. Quality defending also means Furlong marks his players which he’s forgotten to do of late. Pace and quick feet also translate to quality which is missing from Wallace with two pathetic attempts v Boro. Quality of a pass can split a defence open which a lot of time our basic passing has been poor.

I would like to give Dobbin snd Styles an opportunity but Carlos seems intent on giving Wallace minutes which is painful!

[Bombers right foot]

Furlong has regressed back to his old ways, standing day dreaming infield whilst the opposing winger runs into acres of space is amateurish at best, I would like to see Holgate have a go, plus Styles in midfield and Mowatt not two yards away from Bartley and Ajayi, I no fan of Dobbin but the lad did more in his cameo than Johnston and Fellows all game, as for Wallace, no comment

[baggieal]

Furlong has regressed back to his old ways, standing day dreaming infield whilst the opposing winger runs into acres of space is amateurish at best, I would like to see Holgate have a go, plus Styles in midfield and Mowatt not two yards away from Bartley and Ajayi, I no fan of Dobbin but the lad did more in his cameo than Johnston and Fellows all game, as for Wallace, no comment

Good points there Bomber!

[mickd1961]

Furlong has regressed back to his old ways, standing day dreaming infield whilst the opposing winger runs into acres of space is amateurish at best, I would like to see Holgate have a go, plus Styles in midfield and Mowatt not two yards away from Bartley and Ajayi, I no fan of Dobbin but the lad did more in his cameo than Johnston and Fellows all game, as for Wallace, no comment

Exactly the point I was making, Mowatt playing far too deep Saturday due to the fact Ajayi and Bartley can’t safely pass it more than two yards.

Lazy play by Mowatt Saturday I thought.

Molumby brings energy to the defensive midfield pairing but he’s also having to play too deep because him and Mowatt have to be in tandem.

We need a central defender who can carry the ball and move the whole side further up the pitch, maybe time to try Heggem there because he looks comfortable on the ball.

Perhaps try Styles at left back.

We might need to risk a bit more at the back to unlock the undoubted potential up front.

[boingy]

Quality will break anything down. Quality defending also means Furlong marks his players which he’s forgotten to do of late. Pace and quick feet also translate to quality which is missing from Wallace with two pathetic attempts v Boro. Quality of a pass can split a defence open which a lot of time our basic passing has been poor.

I would like to give Dobbin snd Styles an opportunity but Carlos seems intent on giving Wallace minutes which is painful!

The role Furlong is playing is very demanding. He’s doing the job of three players. We’re very fortunate to have him. If he’s to stay back we lose a lot. The modern game has other players replacing his job at the back when he links with the midfield and joins the attack. It’s the way it’s played these days. It’s a shifting structure.

[mickd1961]

The role Furlong is playing is very demanding. He’s doing the job of three players. We’re very fortunate to have him. If he’s to stay back we lose a lot. The modern game has other players replacing his job at the back when he links with the midfield and joins the attack. It’s the way it’s played these days. It’s a shifting structure.

It’s a pity he fails to do the basics and mark the left sided opposition Boingy.

It’s not just when we’ve been on the attack, it’s a case of the crowd shouting in unison….”behind you” a lot of the time at set pieces.

Heggem gets forward but also remembers to mark his man and chase back.

It’s concentration and desire tbh, I was close up to Heggem v Swansea, his laser focus and concentration was very evident, he played like a man desperate to keep his place.

We need a bit more of this from Furlong in a defensive sense.

[baggieal]

The role Furlong is playing is very demanding. He’s doing the job of three players. We’re very fortunate to have him. If he’s to stay back we lose a lot. The modern game has other players replacing his job at the back when he links with the midfield and joins the attack. It’s the way it’s played these days. It’s a shifting structure.

You need to take the blinkers off Boingy. Yes Furlong has improved but he forgets the basics - to mark an opposition player! Heggem does not lose his man so that’s the point!

Had you travelled to Sheffield or the two home games and seen that tripe - you will understand the frustration. That’s from those at the matches! Not many agree with this slow mundane sideways passing FFS!

Carlos needs to try Dobbin and Styles - they deserve a chance. Wallace has been shocking so why does he get minutes? Is it because he’s a nice chap?

[Albionic68]

Exactly the point I was making, Mowatt playing far too deep Saturday due to the fact Ajayi and Bartley can’t safely pass it more than two yards.

Lazy play by Mowatt Saturday I thought.

Molumby brings energy to the defensive midfield pairing but he’s also having to play too deep because him and Mowatt have to be in tandem.

We need a central defender who can carry the ball and move the whole side further up the pitch, maybe time to try Heggem there because he looks comfortable on the ball..........

And this is precisely why we DO miss Kipre, a defender who can defend AND play football. Although there were still times when we'd play around with the ball at the back too long it was generally Kipre who could be relied on to actually pass the ball out and make Bartley look capable of doing more than just blocking the ball with his face.

We miss Yokuslu for similar reasons. He allowed Mowatt space further up the pitch and picked up the loose balls which afforded QPR, Stoke and Plymouth the chances they largely didn't take. It's highly unlikely Boro score their goal with those two in situ either.

Yokuslu had to go really. Big wages and in decline but still a class act we haven't replaced. Diakite really needs to get up to speed. Kipre however was a big loss for how Carlos likes the game played.

Read somewhere that Bartley and Ajayi had given the ball away something like 24 times between them against Millwall on Saturday. Not good enough and part of the reason we struggled to initiate moves from the back, and that's before we touch on how slow they are to release Furlong in particular.