O/T:- Betting odds for US Election [The USA Politics Thread]

[i961pie]

Let's face it what a choice? I thought our politicians are bad but if these two are the best America can come up with God help them.

[slack_pie]

Let's face it what a choice? I thought our politicians are bad but if these two are the best America can come up with God help them.

Agreed, the two candidates are both awful in different ways. You have to pick your poison.

That said, I quite like some of the people that Trump has assembled behind him. Vivek Ramaswamy is on a completely different level to most politicians and has that private-sector zeal that's needed to make real change. He looks like a future president in waiting to me. RFK Junior may have some controversial views, but he seems genuinely motivated to tackle the issues contributing to poor health in the US. And I know they are not everyone's cup of tea, but I'd genuinely be interested to see what a combination of Elon Musk and Ron Paul could achieve by auditing the public sector, cutting the fat, and driving real efficiency. JD Vance is also a more competent VP than Walz as far as I'm concerned.

[Lullapie]

Agreed, the two candidates are both awful in different ways. You have to pick your poison.

That said, I quite like some of the people that Trump has assembled behind him. Vivek Ramaswamy is on a completely different level to most politicians and has that private-sector zeal that's needed to make real change. He looks like a future president in waiting to me. RFK Junior may have some controversial views, but he seems genuinely motivated to tackle the issues contributing to poor health in the US. And I know they are not everyone's cup of tea, but I'd genuinely be interested to see what a combination of Elon Musk and Ron Paul could achieve by auditing the public sector, cutting the fat, and driving real efficiency. JD Vance is also a more competent VP than Walz as far as I'm concerned.

Can you tell me the last election in any free country where either leader/candidate has been generally accepted as being a good choice?

Or tell me the last US election when one of the candidates has been a good pick for everybody. It's generally the media who picks the leaders and tells you how they would be for you.

[slack_pie]

Can you tell me the last election in any free country where either leader/candidate has been generally accepted as being a good choice?

Or tell me the last US election when one of the candidates has been a good pick for everybody. It's generally the media who picks the leaders and tells you how they would be for you.

Nope. There are often people behind them who seem competent, but I can't remember the last time a leadership race was fought between two outstanding candidates.

[Notsohumblepie]

Nope. There are often people behind them who seem competent, but I can't remember the last time a leadership race was fought between two outstanding candidates.

Village Bully versus Village Idiot . That should make us all feel safe in our beds for the next four years

[Mapperleypie]

The two possible outcomes are

Trump wins and declares that it was a great and fair election

Trump loses and declares that the election was rigged

He has the temperament of a petulant six year old.

[Lullapie]

The two possible outcomes are

Trump wins and declares that it was a great and fair election

Trump loses and declares that the election was rigged

He has the temperament of a petulant six year old.

For Trump to win, he needs to win convincingly. He isn't the first Presidential candidate to complain about how the election that he lost was run though.

According to conjecture - Al Gore was cheated in the 2000 election, and didn't accept defeat until the middle of December.

Hillary Clinton was still casting doubts on the legitimacy of the 2016 election almost a year after it had been completed.


There has been some voting irregularity already which has gone through the courts. The case wasn't lead by Trump, but by the Republican Party themselves, who won the case in Pennsylvania.