O/T:- Betting odds for US Election [The USA Politics Thread]

[Elite_Pie]

There lies the problem...again. Accused by who though? Barack and Michelle Obama? Joe Biden's Department of Justice? Tim Walz? Kamala Harris (well her advisors who tell her what to say)? The left-wing media? That is what most of us outside of the US have been fed on.

Are you suggesting that Trump has done no wrong and is the victim of a witch hunt?

You seem to be.

[Lullapie]

Are you suggesting that Trump has done no wrong and is the victim of a witch hunt?

You seem to be.

No such thing EP (with regards to any suggestion). You know my view on people who turn to politics. It's like me saying to you, are you suggesting that no Democrat has ever done anything wrong?

The first part of your comment - I believe that Trump has done some wrong, maybe even 'illegal' acts. However, I do believe he is the victim of a witchhunt.

I believe the majority of people who voted for him, possibly believe the same - especially the swing voters. When you drill down on the details behind what he has been charged with, it is nearly all Department of Justice driven and driven by Democrat sympathisers within the DoJ. But I'm not getting into a discussion/debate on here about that, because you won't change my opinion and vice versa .

[Elite_Pie]

I believe that Trump has done some wrong, maybe even 'illegal' acts. However, I do believe he is the victim of a witchhunt.

Wow! So you think he has "maybe done some illegal acts", but he is the victim of a witch hunt!

I don't think I need to add anything to that.

[Lullapie]

Wow! So you think he has "maybe done some illegal acts", but he is the victim of a witch hunt!

I don't think I need to add anything to that.

Childish. I also am aware that JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden did things while they were in office that were illegal and immoral - I don't wet myself worrying about whether they should be prosecuted or not.

However none of the above would bother you, because there are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Elite_Pie]

Childish. I also am aware that JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden did things while they were in office that were illegal and immoral - I don't wet myself worrying about whether they should be prosecuted or not.

However none of the above would bother you, because there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Double wow! So because some other politicians have done something wrong in the the past, you treat Trump as being in the same bracket. You might have missed it, but Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of felony.

But as you say, there are none so blind as those who will not see!

[Lullapie]

Double wow! So because some other politicians have done something wrong in the the past, you treat Trump as being in the same bracket. You might have missed it, but Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of felony.

But as you say, there are none so blind as those who will not see!

So, he was found guilty of 34 counts of felony. So, when he becomes President and pardons himself or the additional charges are dropped, do you think that he will be ok then, because you believe in all sides of justice.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ice-rcna178930



That list I gave were just 'some' politicians. Did you not know that they were former US Presidents?

[magpie_mania]

So, he was found guilty of 34 counts of felony. So, when he becomes President and pardons himself or the additional charges are dropped, do you think that he will be ok then, because you believe in all sides of justice.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ice-rcna178930



That list I gave were just 'some' politicians. Did you not know that they were former US Presidents?

Whether he pardons himself or not does not change in any way what he has done and been found guilty of.

He has talked about pardoning those involved in the January 6th Capitol assault. The video is there for all to see.

[Elite_Pie]

So, when he becomes President and pardons himself

Did you really type that without seeing the problem with it?

You probably did.

[magpie_mania]

No such thing EP (with regards to any suggestion). You know my view on people who turn to politics. It's like me saying to you, are you suggesting that no Democrat has ever done anything wrong?

The first part of your comment - I believe that Trump has done some wrong, maybe even 'illegal' acts. However, I do believe he is the victim of a witchhunt.

I believe the majority of people who voted for him, possibly believe the same - especially the swing voters. When you drill down on the details behind what he has been charged with, it is nearly all Department of Justice driven and driven by Democrat sympathisers within the DoJ. But I'm not getting into a discussion/debate on here about that, because you won't change my opinion and vice versa .

‘Illegal’ acts?

Pretty obvious from the information out there that he has committed many illegal acts. He was found guilty and is a convicted felon. He doesnÂ’t care, in his opinion he is untouchable. He glories in what he should be ashamed of (think of what he said he could do to women for instance). Just call everything you donÂ’t like fake (he believes that too).

I donÂ’t believe that the majority who voted for him believe he is the victim of a witch-hunt, rather that they are willing to overlook his misdemeanours because they feel they will be better off under Trump.

Like him or loathe him you canÂ’t argue that he doesnÂ’t say what people like to hear.

I think it is troubling that he will have almost unrestrained power. Much more troubling I think is that Musk has bought his way in to the corridors of power. Makes Lord Alli’s donations etc look like peanuts (Musk donated £92m).

[since41]

‘Illegal’ acts?



I think it is troubling that he will have almost unrestrained power. Much more troubling I think is that Musk has bought his way in to the corridors of power. Makes Lord Alli’s donations etc look like peanuts (Musk donated £92m).

See the Financial Times link I posted a few posts back, Close as Musk will get to being President being born overseas, it will be an interesting watch the next few years.