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Thread: O/T:- Betting odds for US Election [The USA Politics Thread]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    You see, there is misinformation from both sides, but the left claim that only the right are doing it. It's a ploy to suppress freedom of speech.

    Trump spoke about Fake News in 2016 and he has definitely been a massive victim of this ever since. He'd make a 30 minute long speech and next minute a segment of it is all over the mainstream media, pulling one sentence out from his speech saying how everyone should be fearful because he wants to destroy the world - crazy.




    Once they get you thinking that the right is spreading lies, then the next step is for the government to tell you, to only believe what they tell you and listen to nobody else.

    That would never happen would it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PogISFr5Hg0
    I am not bothered about left and right especially when used only as a derogatory term for someone who doesn’t agree with you.

    I am bothered about truth though which seems in short supply today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Double wow! So because some other politicians have done something wrong in the the past, you treat Trump as being in the same bracket. You might have missed it, but Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of felony.

    But as you say, there are none so blind as those who will not see!
    So, he was found guilty of 34 counts of felony. So, when he becomes President and pardons himself or the additional charges are dropped, do you think that he will be ok then, because you believe in all sides of justice.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ice-rcna178930



    That list I gave were just 'some' politicians. Did you not know that they were former US Presidents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    I don't call people who don't agree with me 'nutters', I was referring to those that pick one line out of a full paragraph and try and make an argument from it.

    Oh, look what you did.
    So it’s not childish to call them resident nutters then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    You see, there is misinformation from both sides, but the left claim that only the right are doing it.
    Yet again from you, complete and utter bullsh!t. Before the Brexit vote and after it, I repeatedly said on here that both sides were telling a pack of lies, but leave told the better ones.

    You really are a strange one, you constantly ignore what people have actually said and base your criticism entirely on what you hope they said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    So, he was found guilty of 34 counts of felony. So, when he becomes President and pardons himself or the additional charges are dropped, do you think that he will be ok then, because you believe in all sides of justice.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ice-rcna178930



    That list I gave were just 'some' politicians. Did you not know that they were former US Presidents?
    Whether he pardons himself or not does not change in any way what he has done and been found guilty of.

    He has talked about pardoning those involved in the January 6th Capitol assault. The video is there for all to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    I am not bothered about left and right especially when used only as a derogatory term for someone who doesn’t agree with you.

    I am bothered about truth though which seems in short supply today.
    There was a theme during the US Election, touted by the Republicans. I'm not sure if you heard it or even saw it, but the theme was that it used to be that if someone tried something and failed, you picked yourself up, dust yourself down and got on with it. The Republicans said that the current climate was that if you failed, it wasn't through lack of experience or mistakes that you made, it was because you were a victim. You had the right to feel aggrieved with someone else, be it or person or something that had happened in history because it was THEIR fault not yours.

    There were no derogatory terms used, I was pointing out why the world is moving to the right and why those that hang on to their outdated doctrines have been left behind.



    What truth are you missing anyway? I don't understand your comment.

    You also have obviously read what I wrote but ignored the question I asked directly to you. Was it too complicated or are you citing the fifth?

    Do you believe that an individual using their position of power to authorise the murder of someone, is reason for them to be prosecuted? Yes or no answer please.
    Last edited by Lullapie; 10-11-2024 at 11:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    So, when he becomes President and pardons himself
    Did you really type that without seeing the problem with it?

    You probably did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Did you really type that without seeing the problem with it?

    You probably did.
    I am citing US law - it's a problem because you don't agree with it? How come you agree with the US laws you like and not the ones you don't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    There was a theme during the US Election, touted by the Republicans. I'm not sure if you heard it or even saw it, but the theme was that it used to be that if try something and fail, you picked yourself up, dusted yourself down and got on with it. The Republicans said that the current climate was that if you failed, it wasn't through lack of experience or mistakes that you made, it was because you were a victim. You had the right to feel aggrieved with someone else, be it or person or something that had happened in history because it was THEIR fault not yours.

    There were no derogatory terms used, I was pointing out why the world is moving to the right and why those that hang on to their outdated doctrines have been left behind.



    What truth are you missing anyway? I don't understand your comment.

    You also have obviously read what I wrote but ignored the question I asked directly to you. Was it too complicated or are you sighting the fifth?

    Do you believe that an individual using their position of power to authorise the murder of someone, is reason for them to be prosecuted? Yes or no answer please.
    I did not ignore the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Yet again from you, complete and utter bullsh!t. Before the Brexit vote and after it, I repeatedly said on here that both sides were telling a pack of lies, but leave told the better ones.

    You really are a strange one, you constantly ignore what people have actually said and base your criticism entirely on what you hope they said.
    What does Brexit have to do with the US Election?

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