Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[BCram]

I'm not John Nelms' biggest fan but you're way off with some of your thoughts. Most people will have the app or pay in advance online and receive electronic tickets by email making it very easy to attend home games. Whether you like it or not that's the way things are going not only at Dens Park but at most sports and entertainment venues. The option to pay on the day is still there, people just need to plan a bit better and go to the ticket office for one, but most will buy in advance now. Society has changed and people aren't leaving things to the last minute any more when it's so easy to do things like get tickets for a match a week in advance without having to get out of their chairs.

PATG is gone, accept it and move on.

One thing that bugs me is the continued insistence by the club on sending out Christmas draw ticket to all season ticket holders (possibly to others too) by mail. I think it's ?1.55 now for a second class letter up to 100g so if they send out 3,500 of these it's stinging them for nearly ?5,500. I personally don't even open mine, I know the size and shape of the letter and when it comes I put it straight into the bin with the other junk mail. I wonder how many actually get bought? Regardless though, they're ?5,500 down before they start - just plain bonkers.

I agree PATG is gone. Club needs to put more effort into trying to get lapsed fans to come along for each game. There must be 1/2 ST sales that might be attractive just now, and later on 2 or 3 match deals that could be put together.

We used to have a publican who posted regularly on here a while ago, Derry Drummer, I think was his user name.

Maybe the local pubs could do with some help in selling pre match and post match pints to fans? If you have a ticket for the , and it should be easy to demonstrate that with the digital tickets, get something as a reward.

Our club has to be seen to be trying harder to get fans to attend.

Performances on the pitch are crucial but I think more fans might help the team to perform at a higher level.

[Returnofrros]

I agree PATG is gone. Club needs to put more effort into trying to get lapsed fans to come along for each game. There must be 1/2 ST sales that might be attractive just now, and later on 2 or 3 match deals that could be put together.

We used to have a publican who posted regularly on here a while ago, Derry Drummer, I think was his user name.

Maybe the local pubs could do with some help in selling pre match and post match pints to fans? If you have a ticket for the , and it should be easy to demonstrate that with the digital tickets, get something as a reward.

Our club has to be seen to be trying harder to get fans to attend.

Performances on the pitch are crucial but I think more fans might help the team to perform at a higher level.

B cram most publicans would rather folk sit in their pub watching game......and spending all their money in their pub.

[BCram]

B cram most publicans would rather folk sit in their pub watching game......and spending all their money in their pub.

Good point. Shows how rarely I am in a pub!

[Dodbroon]

I fail to understand why the management of Dundee Football Club have scrapped PATG. It gives me the impression that John Nelms is only interested in season ticket holders because they hand over their money before the start of every season and he has no interest in making it as easy as possible for non season ticket holders to attend home games at Dens Park.
The home stands are less than half full. At the Aberdeen home game on Saturday 28th September 2024 which was the first home game we had played for 4 weeks there were almost as many Aberdeen supporters in Dens Park as Dundee supporters.
John Nelms sitting the front row of the Directors Box should notice the decreasing number of people sitting in the Bobby Cox Stand at home games and as managing director of Dundee Football Club he should be asking all the supporters why this is happening.
Hospitality in my opinion is too expensive for the average supporter.
Nelms should be thinking up ways of increasing the number of people sitting in the home stands at Dens Park.
He should reinstate PATG in the Main Stand and Bobby Cox Stand with immediate effect.

The PATG argument should now be a thing of the past. There was definitely a point over the past few seasons when our ticketing system was so poor and therefore several hundred or more could be in a queue at the shop wanting to buy tickets, queuing for ages, and at times missing the start of the game. This season it is all different. Folk can buy their ticket easily, days in advance, on the day, in the pub pre match or outside the ground just prior to entry. The queues at the shop are now a thing of the past and anyone without access to buy online or on their phone can walk straight into the shop and get served right away. Also it's not as if other Premier clubs offer PATG. I can be as old fashioned as the next one of my age but in this case we move with the times. I don't see an issue here other than something to moan about re the club.

I reckon if JN abandoned Camperdown, agreed to stay at Dens, reintroduced PATG, became the best communicator in Scottish football you, Islay, would find something else to beat him over the head with. Lighten up man!

[BCram]

The PATG argument should now be a thing of the past. There was definitely a point over the past few seasons when our ticketing system was so poor and therefore several hundred or more could be in a queue at the shop wanting to buy tickets, queuing for ages, and at times missing the start of the game. This season it is all different. Folk can buy their ticket easily, days in advance, on the day, in the pub pre match or outside the ground just prior to entry. The queues at the shop are now a thing of the past and anyone without access to buy online or on their phone can walk straight into the shop and get served right away. Also it's not as if other Premier clubs offer PATG. I can be as old fashioned as the next one of my age but in this case we move with the times. I don't see an issue here other than something to moan about re the club.

I reckon if JN abandoned Camperdown, agreed to stay at Dens, reintroduced PATG, became the best communicator in Scottish football you, Islay, would find something else to beat him over the head with. Lighten up man!

I think it is possible that the stadium might not be built. Being able to pay for it seems to me to be a concern.

[Returnofrros]

I think it is possible that the stadium might not be built. Being able to pay for it seems to me to be a concern.

Council say no it buys nelms more time.

Council says yes it buys Nelms more time

But despite this being a relatively successful period on the park there is somewhere between real angst and apathy among the supporters that go and the ones that don't will pretty much never be back.

You wouldnae move house with your Mrs if you were loggerheads.

I really wanted the yanks, most respected, d4l and the DSA to try and connect with those that go and those that have lapsed before any move....it hasn't happened and it won't now........the real disappointing aspect of yanks involvement at dens, the DSA sycophants and D4l who couldn't hold a marshmallow to the fire never mind nelms feet.

[BCram]

Council say no it buys nelms more time.

Council says yes it buys Nelms more time

But despite this being a relatively successful period on the park there is somewhere between real angst and apathy among the supporters that go and the ones that don't will pretty much never be back.

You wouldnae move house with your Mrs if you were loggerheads.

I really wanted the yanks, most respected, d4l and the DSA to try and connect with those that go and those that have lapsed before any move....it hasn't happened and it won't now........the real disappointing aspect of yanks involvement at dens, the DSA sycophants and D4l who couldn't hold a marshmallow to the fire never mind nelms feet.

There was not any chance that Dee4life would go aggressive, imo. Don't think they had a proposal that could be an alternative to the new stadium.

I remember arguing that development of Dens would only work if new income streams could be generated. Never got anywhere, so it seems to me Dee4life are playing the long game and hopefully they will stick around. Would like to see them creating a rainy day fund raising option for supporters.

[Returnofrros]

There was not any chance that Dee4life would go aggressive, imo. Don't think they had a proposal that could be an alternative to the new stadium.

I remember arguing that development of Dens would only work if new income streams could be generated. Never got anywhere, so it seems to me Dee4life are playing the long game and hopefully they will stick around. Would like to see them creating a rainy day fund raising option for supporters.

Holding nelms feet to the fire is what was promised ....I lost interest after 1 meeting and breaking of the major commitment.

[BCram]

Holding nelms feet to the fire is what was promised ....I lost interest after 1 meeting and breaking of the major commitment.

Understand that. Think they need more members. Not sure if being anti Nelms is in any way helpful to our club.

[Returnofrros]

Understand that. Think they need more members. Not sure if being anti Nelms is in any way helpful to our club.

Being anti Nelms and wanting answers and more open communication is two completely different things in my book.

There are some Dundee fans (not you) who seem to think Nelms shouldn't be held to account or have a question and answer.....his attitude towards fans is poor.....unless he thinks he can get something out of them.

The fans seem to be a pain to him.