Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[Monaco_Totty]

You need to get a passport if you don't already have one and visit the place you quite clearly know the square root of f00k all about.

This isn't a "dark" thread it's an opportunity you have seized upon to spew delusional nonsense about a place you know nothing about . At least I have lived and worked in various parts of your country and fortunately never come across anyine who holds your views.

And of my posts in this thread.

What decade were your working visits to USA ?

According to the USA Department of Labour, roughly 8.7 million jobs (about 7%) were shed from February 2008 to February 2010 which must have been pretty rough times back then in the States.

Historians could also argue American decline was prevalent in the 50s, 70s & 80s too - as well as the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis.

So surely Spaldy would/should be entitled to express his opinion on behalf of his American folks ?

USA history not my bag but in my limited reading then then I'd suggest the1960's were arguably the years of greatest social change in American history as the country entered that decade full of idealism & hope, with the Civil Rights movement gathering steam under a 'charismatic President' who rallied the nation to explore a new frontier, many historians would argue.

My thinking is that WTF maybe the elder in years (with regard to Spaldy) so was interested what decade did WTF visit the States to exchange working schedules & guage local opinion as I know Spaldy has a hell of a 'Factotum' to gauge an overall valid opinion via having so many diverse activities with responsibilities over his career, which must be taken into account, surely in any debate ?

I'll just add when recently in UK I was talking to a person aged 50 who should be able to retire when they reach 67 but it had been estimated they would need to save an extra ?370 (370 Pounds) per month to provide an income to cover any gap income generated by her early diagnosed illness that may cause intermittent issues between ages of 63 & 67 !

Not gonna knock my country of birth but jeez, when going back home to visit London, Cambridge & York I dunno what happened to the ethic of British idealism & hope, particularly for 21 to 50 year olds currently - thats just visiting family, friends & a stay in my fee paid Medical facility who hold my contracted records for specialised ongoing medical fee paying treatments with female patients of mixed age.

Having just taken the plunge to buy property again, its certainly food for thought as the fact is I simply could not have done that in the UK but I do feel comfortable to release my capital again into securing a future by investing in realistic value among a realistic local society with human experiences to share & basically being amongst everyday people in ordinary but beautiful settings.

Just saying (as the voice of youth) on 'ere.