⚽ Match Thread vs. Peterborough Utd. 30.11.24 [FAC R2]

[SwalePie]

We are more interested in spending thousands on projects like the Nest and Padel Courts.. We got all of that money for the sale of Macca, Nemane and the compo for Williams. How much of that has been spent on new players ? Jatta came from a club owned by the bros, so no actual money changed hands.

The Nottingham Padel Centre and The Nest have both been extremely shrewd and successful investments in financial stability through the increase in ongoing overall year-round revenues of the club.

We now have a top-notch pitch capable of hosting football literally right up to international level, potentially adding further revenue through stadium use, not to mention expanded hospitality capacity, further raising revenue.

I would imagine the likes of Bass, Crowley, Jones et al do not come cheaply in terms of their overall contract costs (players do not just cost money in terms of transfer fees).

The brothers do not own Viborg FF, although they do have a minority stake in it through an investment consortium, so the likelihood that 'no actual money changed hands' is extremely remote in my opinion.

I think it is also important to remember the debt burden that the brothers are financing every season, a real millstone, which makes it even more important to run the club prudently and increase off-field revenues as much as possible.

All of this is achieved while still remaining competitive on the pitch and pushing for the promotion places. Of course we don't have the highest budget on the pitch but we are certainly extremely well-run overall, which should make us all feel comfortable with the steady progress and the lack of catastrophic financial news coming out of Meadow Lane over the years since the Reedtz rescue.

Just my views of course. I guess I'm just a nodding dog though.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

As a nodding dog I can't for the life of me see why anyone would be calling for the manager to be replaced after to losing to a team a division higher in a cup game. Especially with an injury ridden squad with a crucial top of the table clash coming up 3 days later. If a manager chooses to not risk his players for such a game, so be it.Sitting 5th,with not just injuries, but star players out is quite admirable in my book.i suppose will could always get Ardley back in as according to many on here he was great, it just happens though hes unemployed again for some reason. !?x!

[70YearsAPie]

The Nottingham Padel Centre and The Nest have both been extremely shrewd and successful investments in financial stability through the increase in ongoing overall year-round revenues of the club.

We now have a top-notch pitch capable of hosting football literally right up to international level, potentially adding further revenue through stadium use, not to mention expanded hospitality capacity, further raising revenue.

I would imagine the likes of Bass, Crowley, Jones et al do not come cheaply in terms of their overall contract costs (players do not just cost money in terms of transfer fees).

The brothers do not own Viborg FF, although they do have a minority stake in it through an investment consortium, so the likelihood that 'no actual money changed hands' is extremely remote in my opinion.

I think it is also important to remember the debt burden that the brothers are financing every season, a real millstone, which makes it even more important to run the club prudently and increase off-field revenues as much as possible.

All of this is achieved while still remaining competitive on the pitch and pushing for the promotion places. Of course we don't have the highest budget on the pitch but we are certainly extremely well-run overall, which should make us all feel comfortable with the steady progress and the lack of catastrophic financial news coming out of Meadow Lane over the years since the Reedtz rescue.

Just my views of course. I guess I'm just a nodding dog though.

No Swale, they are not JUST your views; I totally agree with what you say. I don't usually get involved with the arguments of the grumpy old men on this board, but I felt I had to reply to some of the comments. However, you've saved me the trouble and covered all the points I was going to mention. Well said!

[matt_magpie]

Showing ambition, as opposed to just talking about it, would be having a larger budget than rival clubs that are bigger than you. Notts are currently struggling to compete with clubs averaging 3-5k less than us and having finished 14th last season (lower than both Sutton and Salford did in their first season in the FL).

3000k fans at an average of ?15 a ticket equates to around a million quid a home season less than us. Considering Notts claim their not breaking even probably means these clubs with bigger budgets are projected to lose probably 2m a year and it wouldn?t be no different in L1. Footballs financially broken as players wages are higher than ever from the drip down effect of the premiership yet the premiership has done everything it can not to share their wealth lower down to the point the EFL has forced the through the regulator in hope to push through the EFL funding deal which has been delayed and delayed. The owners are trying to get in extra revenue, why wouldn?t you? In an industry outside the prem where an extreme few manage to break even.
Alternatively we have owners accepting to lose say 2m a year and for however long that lasts and a hope that we get promoted through the divisions. Tbf our owners were losing 2m a year in the NL.

[marky]

3000k fans at an average of ?15 a ticket equates to around a million quid a home season less than us. Considering Notts claim their not breaking even probably means these clubs with bigger budgets are projected to lose probably 2m a year and it wouldn?t be no different in L1. Footballs financially broken as players wages are higher than ever from the drip down effect of the premiership yet the premiership has done everything it can not to share their wealth lower down to the point the EFL has forced the through the regulator in hope to push through the EFL funding deal which has been delayed and delayed. The owners are trying to get in extra revenue, why wouldn?t you? In an industry outside the prem where an extreme few manage to break even.
Alternatively we have owners accepting to lose say 2m a year and for however long that lasts and a hope that we get promoted through the divisions. Tbf our owners were losing 2m a year in the NL.

So the owners are trying to get in extra revenue. Well winning last Saturday would have helped that.

[BigFatPie]

The Nottingham Padel Centre and The Nest have both been extremely shrewd and successful investments in financial stability through the increase in ongoing overall year-round revenues of the club.

We now have a top-notch pitch capable of hosting football literally right up to international level, potentially adding further revenue through stadium use, not to mention expanded hospitality capacity, further raising revenue.

I would imagine the likes of Bass, Crowley, Jones et al do not come cheaply in terms of their overall contract costs (players do not just cost money in terms of transfer fees).

The brothers do not own Viborg FF, although they do have a minority stake in it through an investment consortium, so the likelihood that 'no actual money changed hands' is extremely remote in my opinion.

I think it is also important to remember the debt burden that the brothers are financing every season, a real millstone, which makes it even more important to run the club prudently and increase off-field revenues as much as possible.

All of this is achieved while still remaining competitive on the pitch and pushing for the promotion places. Of course we don't have the highest budget on the pitch but we are certainly extremely well-run overall, which should make us all feel comfortable with the steady progress and the lack of catastrophic financial news coming out of Meadow Lane over the years since the Reedtz rescue.

Just my views of course. I guess I'm just a nodding dog though.

Agree with all of that which doesn?t make either of us a nodding dog. Equally, having the opinion that Stuart Maynard unfortunately isn?t quite up to the job doesn?t make anyone a bedwetter either.

[BigFatPie]

I’m not sure we even had a shot in that game - I think Maurice Johnson scored the winner for them. Fair to say on reflection that we had a couple of top division players (Draper, Johnson, Craig Short) in an otherwise “second division” squad.

I’ve always had a soft spot for Everton, which comes from having a liking for the “other” team in two-club cities (Everton, Man City, Espanyol, Cercle Bruge - it’s a weird list).

Weird to say but in many ways that season was grimmer than some of the time in non league. Some really terrible games and performances in front of what would now be considered abysmal attendances for top flight football. I saw one decent away result at Forest but we were battered in that game as well.

People who think Sky have destroyed football should really take a look at a few of the seasons preceding their involvement in it.

[matt_magpie]

So the owners are trying to get in extra revenue. Well winning last Saturday would have helped that.

So how could they have influenced a single football match better? The first 11 was probably the best we had available and I guess they could have sacked Maynard before in the hope the new manager wouldn?t do 4 subs in one go?

[the_anticlough]

It seems like SM and Co really scored an OG on Saturday.

Like me, I don't think most fans expected us to get thru the tie, but all expected us to at least try.
It's right that most of the focus is on the substitutions. It was a crass move to make those specific subs and to make them altogether.

As far as his standing with the fans is concerned, SM as put himself on even shakier ground than before. And it wasn't all that solid even before Saturday.

If we could all go back in time to summer 2022 and have the power to endorse or veto LW's appointment, 100% would support it, even DurhamPie (as it got us that precious promotion back to the EFL).

If fans could go back in time to January this year, I feel that only 5% max would back SM's appointment, if they had the power, knowing everything about the record since then. 19 out of 20 would veto it, including many like me, who back him now and support giving him a fair crack of the whip this season. I was underwhelmed at the time and would undo it now, if I could.
And Cup losses can bite hard and long. The loss at Salford certainly banged a few nails into Moniz's coffin. Keeping the fans onside should be right up there with his highest priorities.

And onto tonight, but with negative vibes - the squad must feel the strangeness of the P'boro loss. Psychologically, it's always healthier looking back knowing you gave something your best shot.

Let's hope that he can keep things on track starting tonight and that he hasn't shot himself in the foot after all.

[marky]

Weird to say but in many ways that season was grimmer than some of the time in non league. Some really terrible games and performances in front of what would now be considered abysmal attendances for top flight football. I saw one decent away result at Forest but we were battered in that game as well.

People who think Sky have destroyed football should really take a look at a few of the seasons preceding their involvement in it.

My first ever Notts game was against Coventry that season, a warm Saturday afternoon in April. The attendance was 6,655. Unbelievably there were some attendances even lower than that.