Will SM take us to promotion?

[durhampie]

He is more likely to get us relegated. For what we getting we may aswell given the job back to Cross eyed Burchnall.

[Mud Pie]

Overall, most managers' PPG will drop towards the end of their tenure as they approach the sack, so that table makes Maynard look better than he is, if anything.
Maynard has been in charge for 37 games
Based on the first 37 league games in tier 4 he's even worse than Gudjon Thordarson
Steve Thompson W12 D12 L13 Pts:48
Gudjon Thordarson W12 D11 L14 Pts:47
Stuart Maynard W12 D10 L15 Pts:46

I don't think stats can tell us much about the OP's question partly because 1) squads/opposition/weather/support/ownership/injuries + timing of injuries + individual injured as compared to the same for the other clubs - timing/comparative timing of injuries season on season makes a huge different to the ceiling on a manager's performance and that's hidden in stats, then fixture list layered on top of that etc etc = how are you going to get stats to realistically compare all that? Too 1D for me, and 2) SM is untried at this level. The whole landscape of his performance environment is totally different from any (?) other manager in our history.

[Mud Pie]

another way to look at this question, is who has the best chance of getting us promoted this season?

A new coach would have the same squad depth and injuries, and SM's points tally up to the injuries really started affecting performance was fine, so isn't it likely he can achieve the same with the same players when they're back?

A billion dollar spend on players and a microwaved Neil Warnock in January might work... but chequebook football is, ahem, not Notts way is it?

[durhampie]

I don't think stats can tell us much about the OP's question partly because 1) squads/opposition/weather/support/ownership/injuries + timing of injuries + individual injured as compared to the same for the other clubs - timing/comparative timing of injuries season on season makes a huge different to the ceiling on a manager's performance and that's hidden in stats, then fixture list layered on top of that etc etc = how are you going to get stats to realistically compare all that? Too 1D for me, and 2) SM is untried at this level. The whole landscape of his performance environment is totally different from any (?) other manager in our history.

He is crap, and thats the difference..

[Mud Pie]

He is crap, and thats the difference..

subjectively crap iyo. Objectively we're 6th after 18 games.

[Boomerangpie]

He is more likely to get us relegated. For what we getting we may aswell given the job back to Cross eyed Burchnall.

Well that?s a brave but ridiculous statement. No he?s not. Currently 4 points off an automatic promotion place and 14 points above a relegation place.

Constant negativity

[magpie_mania]

He is more likely to get us relegated. For what we getting we may aswell given the job back to Cross eyed Burchnall.

I realise that there are very few Notts players or staff that you rate, but I don?t think there is any need for childish insults!

[upthemaggies]

Doncaster's win tonight means we are out of touch (more than 3 points) with automatic promotion for the 1st time since August.

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

I am on the fence still, but leaning towards positivity. I think I see what the bros see which is, not perfection by any means, but steady progression.
Someone upthread posted the player list who didn't/ couldn't play last night. It is 2 thirds of a very competitive L2 squad.
If you can put your 1st choice players out on the pitch often you will win more games. That's why they're 1st choice. This is such a blindingly obvious fact I don't know why some posters are wilfully ignoring it.

THIS SEASON SMs record is very similar to LWs. But I will go slightly controversial here and say that the team has been better under SM. Here's why I think that.

LWs Notts played one way and one way only. And by the time we played Harrogate we'd become a laughing stock for our backpasses. Build up was even slower than it is now.

Setting aside the subs from Saturday (which is a whole different discussion) SM seems to make changes as he sees fit. Sometimes he doesn't make any. Quite often there is a positive effect.
LW made the same subs at the same time and it ALWAYS weakened us. This was widely acknowledged on this board.

We often come out 2nd half looking better. This rarely happened last season. Under LW, I always felt like if we weren't winning by half time we were done. Not so this season.

No one is battering us. Only Crewe - helped by a comedy penalty award - have beaten us more then one goal. UTM please correct if wrong.

SM is not likely to **** off and leave us in the s*ite in the middle of the transfer window...

We sit 6th because we're about 6th best. We have only lost to 1 team below us - a game we should have won.

So I see no reason to panic. If our missing players come back successfully I think we may well finish 6th. I'd have taken that at the start. If you'd told me we'd lose JJ for half the season I'd have snatched your hand off.

[matt_magpie]

All this stuff about he?s never done it in this league is rubbish to me and he was only part time before.
The reality is he was as managing a team in just one league below, training twice a week, tiny budget and managing recruitment and all the other issues in a football club whilst keeping them competitive and holding down a full time job so at the very least he can do a good job at Notts, can he do a great job is another question.