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[islaydarkblue]

In 2019 I heard that shortly after Tim Keyes purchased the 29.7 acres former NCR Camperdown playing fields site from Vico Camperdown Limited on 8th July 2016 he tried to sell it back to them.
The Vico Camperdown directors were not interested as they had redeemed a standard security held by the Bank of Ireland over the site on 12th July 2016.
This might account for the fact that we never hear Tim Keyes speaking about the new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields and Tim Keyes was never mentioned at the second Pre Application meeting in the Landmark Hotel in September 2022.
It could be Tim Keyes has told John Nelms that it is his project and he (Nelms) is on his own.

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In 2019 I heard that shortly after Tim Keyes purchased the 29.7 acres former NCR Camperdown playing fields site from Vico Camperdown Limited on 8th July 2016 he tried to sell it back to them.
The Vico Camperdown directors were not interested as they had redeemed a standard security held by the Bank of Ireland over the site on 12th July 2016.
This might account for the fact that we never hear Tim Keyes speaking about the new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields and Tim Keyes was never mentioned at the second Pre Application meeting in the Landmark Hotel in September 2022.
It could be Tim Keyes has told John Nelms that it is his project and he (Nelms) is on his own.

You 'heard' and 'it could be' but have no proof?

Is this your latest bombshell? Barely a damp squeeb in all honesty.

[islaydarkblue]

You 'heard' and 'it could be' but have no proof?

Is this your latest bombshell? Barely a damp squeeb in all honesty.

I know exactly where and when I received this information.
You were the Dee4life primary representative on the Dundee Football Club board of directors when Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited purchased the 29.7 acres site of the former NCR Camperdown playing fields for 1.296 million pounds.
Surely you must have heard something about this purchase before you resigned as the Dee4life primary representative on 1st April 2017.

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I know exactly where and when I received this information.
You were the Dee4life primary representative on the Dundee Football Club board of directors when Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited purchased the 29.7 acres site of the former NCR Camperdown playing fields for 1.296 million pounds.
Surely you must have heard something about this purchase before you resigned as the Dee4life primary representative on 1st April 2017.

No I wasn't. The proposal at the time of my resignation was Caird Park; Camperdown was long after I went.

[islaydarkblue]

No I wasn't. The proposal at the time of my resignation was Caird Park; Camperdown was long after I went.

According to the enclosed Companies House website you resigned as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited on 1st April 2017 over eight months after Tim Keyes purchased the 29.7 acres site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields on 8th July 2016.
https://find-and-update.company-info...fficers?page=2

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According to the enclosed Companies House website you resigned as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited on 1st April 2017 over eight months after Tim Keyes purchased the 29.7 acres site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields on 8th July 2016.
https://find-and-update.company-info...fficers?page=2

It might well have been reported to Companies House 1st April 2017 but it was a good while before that, at least a year in fact.

[islaydarkblue]

It might well have been reported to Companies House 1st April 2017 but it was a good while before that, at least a year in fact.

Based on your calculations you were only the Dee4life primary representative for less than a month.
Very strange as I seem to remember reading in the minutes of the Dee4life board of directors meetings your report as their primary representative on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors on several occasions between 4th March 2016 and 1st April 2017.
If you had posted that Tim Keyes of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited purchasing the 29.7 acres site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields was never discussed despite Tim also being a director of Dundee Football Club Limited I would have accepted that but to blame Companies House for their failure to publish your resignation for 12 months is in my opinion a poor show.

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Based on your calculations you were only the Dee4life primary representative for less than a month.
Very strange as I seem to remember reading in the minutes of the Dee4life board of directors meetings your report as their primary representative on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors on several occasions between 4th March 2016 and 1st April 2017.
If you had posted that Tim Keyes of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited purchasing the 29.7 acres site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields was never discussed despite Tim also being a director of Dundee Football Club Limited I would have accepted that but to blame Companies House for their failure to publish your resignation for 12 months is in my opinion a poor show.

No you're right, the land was purchased before I resigned (I depend on memory not minute analysis of minutes) however there were no plans in place and the only discussion I ever got wind of was related to the old NCR building that stood on the site. It contained a rather impressive mural depicting old Dundee trades and which I believe John Nelms removed and put in his own home.

[islaydarkblue]

No you're right, the land was purchased before I resigned (I depend on memory not minute analysis of minutes) however there were no plans in place and the only discussion I ever got wind of was related to the old NCR building that stood on the site. It contained a rather impressive mural depicting old Dundee trades and which I believe John Nelms removed and put in his own home.

Thanks for the update.
I had previously heard that the mural was being stored in the Dundee museum and art gallery. If your information is correct then this would be very disappointing.
I enclose photographs of the NCR Camperdown factory in its hey day. https://canmore.org.uk/site/70495/du...west-ncr-works

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Thanks for the update.
I had previously heard that the mural was being stored in the Dundee museum and art gallery. If your information is correct then this would be very disappointing.
I enclose photographs of the NCR Camperdown factory in its hey day. https://canmore.org.uk/site/70495/du...west-ncr-works

The mural may well be in the museum, I'm only recalling what I heard at the time.