Tony Stewart's Tactical Ploy / Strategy To Sell Season Tickets Next Season ?

[KerrAvon]

What I would say Masbroughstreet, is that surely Tony Stewart has the final say on money allocated.
But Paul Douglas has been associated with transfers, contracts etc.
The Millers have been hit quite a few times in giving out long contracts, under valuing players when sold,
with one big mistake was the Blackstock saga, which cost the club money.
The club don't have a person on the board, who has football knowledge.

So Stewart and Douglas have been running the club for 16 years, but the club "don't have a person on the board, who has football knowledge'.

How does someone get 'football knowledge' and how long does it take?

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

So Stewart and Douglas have been running the club for 16 years, but the club "don't have a person on the board, who has football knowledge'.

How does someone get 'football knowledge' and how long does it take?

On past & current dealings, transfers, contracts, losing players for pea-nuts or nothing,
giving out long contracts to players past their best.
That doe's not show knowledge or wisdom.

[howdydoo]

On past & current dealings, transfers, contracts, losing players for pea-nuts or nothing,
giving out long contracts to players past their best.
That doe's not show knowledge or wisdom.

You compare us against 90% of other similar clubs like us over the last 15 seasons, I?d say it does.

Bit of a sh!t show at the moment though.

[caytonmiller]

Strange how the same people who could run the club successful when we left don valley and made us successful and probably the envy of several lower league clubs and fans. Go to not having a clue within 18 months.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

So Stewart and Douglas have been running the club for 16 years, but the club "don't have a person on the board, who has football knowledge'.

How does someone get 'football knowledge' and how long does it take?

To your question KerrAvon
Tony Stewart & Paul Douglas running the club for 16 years, & how to gain football knowledge.

Your answer comes from Chairman Tony Stewart every year.

He says, " We have learnt from our mistakes "

So there's your answer, Stewart & Douglas don't have the knowledge after 16 years,
when Stewart spouts this out, making mistake after mistake.

[rolymiller]

I'm just amazed that TS will let Stevie blow a big chunk of his money in the transfer market and still be relegated anyway. Big mates by all accounts but I wouldn't want my mate to chuck all my money away.

We all know a couple of our better players will go and get replaced by players, even if better on paper, will not want to play for him like the rest and just pick up a nice wage till the end of the season.

We are knacked basically.

[KerrAvon]

On past & current dealings, transfers, contracts, losing players for pea-nuts or nothing,
giving out long contracts to players past their best.
That doe's not show knowledge or wisdom.

Well reading this board over the years, the position seems to be:

1. If we sign a player who doesn't perform as anticipated then he should have been signed on a short contract (assuming that he would have been willing to accept that).
2. If we sign a player who does well, he should have been signed on a long contract with no automatic release clause and with a huge sell on clause (assuming that he would have been willing to accept that).
3. If we sell a successful player when the time remaining on his contract allows us to secure a fee we lack ambition.
4. If a good player leaves for nothing because his contract expires, we should have sold him when we could have secured a fee.
5. If we sell a player for a sum that the market deems appropriate we should have sold him for the monopoly money figure deemed appropriate on here.

Does that sum it up? So 'football knowledge' is a euphemism for possessing a crystal ball and an ability to meet unrealistic expectations?

[mellowmiller]

Strange how the same people who could run the club successful when we left don valley and made us successful and probably the envy of several lower league clubs and fans. Go to not having a clue within 18 months.

Why is it strange?
It happens all the time to businesses that don't appear to have a coherent plan, don't adapt to changing circumstances or are reactive rather than proactive.
Rotherham United in a nutshell.

[mellowmiller]

Well reading this board over the years, the position seems to be:

1. If we sign a player who doesn't perform as anticipated then he should have been signed on a short contract (assuming that he would have been willing to accept that).
2. If we sign a player who does well, he should have been signed on a long contract with no automatic release clause and with a huge sell on clause (assuming that he would have been willing to accept that).
3. If we sell a successful player when the time remaining on his contract allows us to secure a fee we lack ambition.
4. If a good player leaves for nothing because his contract expires, we should have sold him when we could have secured a fee.
5. If we sell a player for a sum that the market deems appropriate we should have sold him for the monopoly money figure deemed appropriate on here.

Does that sum it up? So 'football knowledge' is a euphemism for possessing a crystal ball and an ability to meet unrealistic expectations?

One thing is for sure. The people who say we should develop our own players through the academy (which we don't have) would probably be the first to be up in arms when we sold them regardless of the fees obtained.
We have always been a selling club but whether we are any good at it is a moot point.
It is hard to see our place in the food chain changing unless we happen to drop on a billionaire looking for a bit of a challenge which seems highly unlikely.

[caytonmiller]

Why is it strange?
It happens all the time to businesses that don't appear to have a coherent plan, don't adapt to changing circumstances or are reactive rather than proactive.
Rotherham United in a nutshell.

So if it's not strange and the norm why are fans getting so upset. They must have known it was coming