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[islaydarkblue]

Sometimes teachers get it wrong, imo. There seems to be a culture that has turned against schools and education.

The local authorities should bring back Special Schools for handicapped children (now called special needs) where all the school children suffering from Autism and ADHD can be educated.

[Deeranged]

The local authorities should bring back Special Schools for handicapped children (now called special needs) where all the school children suffering from Autism and ADHD can be educated.

But they don't want to be educated and the parents don't care whether they're educated or not.

[BCram]

The local authorities should bring back Special Schools for handicapped children (now called special needs) where all the school children suffering from Autism and ADHD can be educated.

Islay, it isn't as simple as that. There are schools that cater for children with profound difficulties, but there is a range of special needs children who can, with some specialist support, be educated in the mainstream.

It makes life difficult for teachers and their pupils but it does seem to be a more tolerant approach.

I agree with Deeranged, that there appear to be parents who seem not to care if their children are educated or not. There needs to be a change in attitude, and I don't know how it could be done, and worryingly all our politicians seem to be clueless too.

[Dens Park Dynamo]

The local authorities should bring back Special Schools for handicapped children (now called special needs) where all the school children suffering from Autism and ADHD can be educated.

Your post above just sums up how far away from reality you are. Words fail me.

[BCram]

Your post above just sums up how far away from reality you are. Words fail me.

What is the alternative though? Islay's suggestion is to return to the way things used to be organised. Maybe there is something in the concept that could be adopted?

Do you have any suggestions to improve what is happening?

[islaydarkblue]

Your post above just sums up how far away from reality you are. Words fail me.

On the contrary.
My father was a teacher at Fairmuir Special School in Dundee for 35 years retiring as the headmaster in October 1988.
My father always said the units set up in Primary Schools and Secondary Schools for handicapped children were a bad move as these units would be called the ‘Daft’ units by mainstream children in these schools.
The Primary and Secondary Schools were keen for these units to be installed as it kept their numbers up.

[islaydarkblue]

Islay, it isn't as simple as that. There are schools that cater for children with profound difficulties, but there is a range of special needs children who can, with some specialist support, be educated in the mainstream.

It makes life difficult for teachers and their pupils but it does seem to be a more tolerant approach.

I agree with Deeranged, that there appear to be parents who seem not to care if their children are educated or not. There needs to be a change in attitude, and I don't know how it could be done, and worryingly all our politicians seem to be clueless too.

Fairmuir Special School was set up in Dundee as the result of a polio outbreak in the 1930’s.
It was originally for physically handicapped school children but latterly most of the pupils were mentally handicapped with some physically handicapped pupils.
School children who had profound difficulties went to Coldside School and Duncarse School.
After my father retired as the headmaster of Fairmuir Special School in October 1988 things completely changed at Fairmuir Special School.
It was renamed Kingspark School as it became a school for pupils suffering from profound difficulties.
Mentally and physically handicapped pupils who are now called Special Needs Pupils attend purpose built units in Primary and Secondary Schools.
There is also another class of pupils in Scotland who are called Assisted Needs pupils.
These are pupils who require extra coaching for different subjects at school.
They used to be called Remedial classes.
My godmother was a remedial teacher at from memory Braehead Academy in Dundee.

[Deeranged]

We just don't use the word handicapped any more Islay. The Americans do but it's just not the right terminology in UK and hasn't been for decades.

[islaydarkblue]

But they don't want to be educated and the parents don't care whether they're educated or not.

Parents used to be prosecuted and fined in the Courts for their children’s non attendance at school.
There is a current Argyll and Bute Councillor whose mother was fined for his non attendance at Islay High School.
This councillor’s spelling and grammar is poor.
About ten years ago I spoke to his English teacher at Islay High School about this councillor’s poor English and grammar in emails and said that his English teacher’s teaching cannot be up to much.
His English teacher told me that the Argyll and Bute councillor in question was never at Islay High School and his mother was fined for his non attendance. His exact words were “The chunt was never at Islay High School”.
School attendance officers should be brought back to ensure that non attendance of pupils and Primary and Secondary schools in Scotland is greatly reduced.
Several months ago I read an article in the Sunday Times newspaper that the Scottish Government in their annual attendance figures for school pupils count school children who do not attend school as being at school.
Scottish Government ministers and their civil servants should be explaining why they are cheating in their calculation of the annual school attendance figures throughout Scotland.
This is a bit like counting all season ticket holders in the published attendance total for home games at Dens Park whether the season ticket holder is at the game or not.

[islaydarkblue]

We just don't use the word handicapped any more Islay. The Americans do but it's just not the right terminology in UK and hasn't been for decades.

I know that but it was used when Fairmuir Special School was in operation.