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Thread: O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Med Pie View Post
    I was under the illusion that there was an embargo on all Russian goods so there should be nothing to tax?
    Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OchPie View Post
    Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.
    He was going to stop the war in 1 day? Mind you He didn't say which day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    It?s instructive that the people punting those images around the internet never post the whole video of those politicians. More misleading nonsense.
    Straight out of the Bannon playbook of 'flooding the zone with 5hit'

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    It?s instructive that the people punting those images around the internet never post the whole video of those politicians. More misleading nonsense.
    Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusCole View Post
    Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.
    100% Marcus. It's all about how someone sees it and if they have only one eye, they only see it one way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OchPie View Post
    Not completely, the US still imported some fertiliser and metals. But a relatively tiny amount - maybe a couple of billion dollars worth.
    I like it.

    Russian goods are still being sold in the US. They are just being distributed through third/fourth parties to avoid any embargo.

    The previous administration knew all about it, but did nothing to stop it.


    I bet Trump's team will find 'get outs' for both Russia and Ukraine to start talking and bring about a cessation. The US will possibly threaten them with a few more financial barriers too (that won't eventuate) if they don't agree to get around 'the table'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    No I think common sense individuals see it for what it is.

    We can speculate about the reasons why he did it and what it says about him, but he did it. The from the heart gesture was what he did when he spoke about the heart - putting his palm on his heart. What came before that was a double Nazi / Roman (used by Italian fascists) salute and there's no doubt in my mind about that. Just look at the expression on his face.
    It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

    I would hazard a guess that being Jewish is far more important to Shapiro than his following of capitalism.

    Shapiro, who as I far as I understand has no connection to any far-right, antisemitic, pro-Nazi groups, spoke up for Musk and called out the hysteria of the left-wing media.

    The same as the Anti-Defamation League, who also backed Musk. Again, Musk has been in a long running feud with the ADL prior to his 'gesture', but they backed him, saying that it was just over-enthusiasm.



    There's a saying that the best thing for left-wing media is a right-wing government. I'm not sure if that is still true in the US. MSNBC are in huge financial trouble, with dramatic drops in ratings and next week, CNN are going to lay off 6% of its workforce as ratings for them drop too.

    Americans are getting bored with their unbalance and made up journalism and fantasy stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusCole View Post
    Your side does it it is taken out of context. The side you hate does it it's proof enough.
    There’s the real world isn’t there Marcus, and then there’s the one you and Dopey Drawers from NZ inhabit. For the avoidance of doubt, here’s all those clips of Dem politicians in full.

    https://x.com/amoneyresists/status/1...HIguMs7uVNF98Q

    I’m very confident you’ll both be admitting you were wrong really soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    It would be a great ploy for Musk to do the Nazi salute, just a week after visiting Auschwitz with that other well known anti-Jewish Nazi, Ben Shapiro.

    I would hazard a guess that being Jewish is far more important to Shapiro than his following of capitalism.

    Shapiro, who as I far as I understand has no connection to any far-right, antisemitic, pro-Nazi groups, spoke up for Musk and called out the hysteria of the left-wing media.

    The same as the Anti-Defamation League, who also backed Musk. Again, Musk has been in a long running feud with the ADL prior to his 'gesture', but they backed him, saying that it was just over-enthusiasm.



    There's a saying that the best thing for left-wing media is a right-wing government. I'm not sure if that is still true in the US. MSNBC are in huge financial trouble, with dramatic drops in ratings and next week, CNN are going to lay off 6% of its workforce as ratings for them drop too.

    Americans are getting bored with their unbalance and made up journalism and fantasy stories.
    breitbart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud Pie View Post
    breitbart?
    No, I think they are doing ok. I know the conjecture is that they are right-wing, but actually read some of their articles. Their headlines definitely aren't all pro-Republican. Then look at MSNBC, CNN and NBC (another network laying off staff). It's verging on media hysteria on their part. Forbes is another one like Breitbart. They release videos that are pro-Republican, but their news network is much more even-handed.


    Carrying this on, Trump signs off today the release of the JFK, RFK and MLK assassination files.

    For me, who is fascinated by the Kennedy empire, it could be really interesting, but then again, I think there could be so much redacted that they'll be useless.

    However, if there is nothing in the release that is groundbreaking, why the hell have successive US governments refused to release all the information?

    I have looked forward to this more than anything and have carried out my JFK pilgrimage over the years, so I eagerly await the news prepared to be severely disappointed.
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