Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Fair point and fine lines. Both wrong, but I feel misinformation aimed at discrediting a race or religion is more malicious.

Which I feel you?ve done repeatedly against Christians when retorting against tricky rants, possibly more generalising than discretion but still misinforming. IMO the rioting, abhorrent as it was, and the rise of ?the right?, is the tip of an iceberg of frustration against an ?intelligencia? pushing a pro-diversity, anti-tradition narrative. My wandering s offer me a thousands anecdotes to that effect, but I?m not allowed to offer them?

[swaledale]

Which I feel you?ve done repeatedly against Christians when retorting against tricky rants, possibly more generalising than discretion but still misinforming. IMO the rioting, abhorrent as it was, and the rise of ?the right?, is the tip of an iceberg of frustration against an ?intelligencia? pushing a pro-diversity, anti-tradition narrative. My wandering s offer me a thousands anecdotes to that effect, but I?m not allowed to offer them?

Pushing a pro diversity, anti tradition narrative? Mm I think you've been reading to much fake propaganda again to spout such tosh. As for your anecdotes, of course your allowed to offer them, its just that those of us with half a brain realise they are nothing more than stories, that can easily be countered by other anecdotes which demonstrate the opposite to what you claim. Plus anybody who as you have done in the past professes to be concerned by a perception that there are "too many ethnic presenters etc. appearing in the media" clearly has an inbuilt prejudice.

If one looks at the facts, the vast majority of the rioters were narrow minded wasters who weren't actually rebelling against anything but jumped on the band wagon joined the mob to enhance their petty boring lives.

If you really cant see that certain people with influence, the name Farage comes to mind, are pushing an agenda of scapegoating certain sectors of the community in order to stir up the frustrations (many of them understandable but in no way related to immigration or Muslims) on behalf and funded by certain elite billionaires who don't give a toss about ether the lives of these people or indeed these "traditions" your mentioning, then unfortunately you clearly lack the capability to understand what's going on.

Your comments also suggest - encouraging diversity upsets you, though quite why encouraging the participation and respect for those in society who have "traditionally" been discriminated against, disrespected and had their life options severely curtailed due to narrow prejudice is a problem is quite puzzling. Indeed as a self claimed "Christian" I would ahve thought you would welcome a more equal and fair society, but there again IF all those who proclaimed to be followers of Christ, the world would be a very different place.

Anti-tradition - yep life moves on, traditions change, always have always will, sad that many people as they get older become less flexible, less willing to accept that life is different today, but thats inevitable and no amount of harking back will change this.

Also many "traditions" are nothing more than rituals designed to keep people in their place and are better for their abandonment.

Oh and the guy in the Southport atrocity was raised as a Christian, funny nobody is calling for the mass deportations/ punishment of Christians isn't it?

[ramAnag]

Which I feel you?ve done repeatedly against Christians when retorting against tricky rants,

I’m sorry Andy but that’s probably the daftest thing you’ve ever written. I’d be offended if I took any notice of you these days.

I’d love you to provide one example of me being anti Christian. I may well have been critical of certain church leaders but, for the record, I believe all organised religion to be based on little more than elaborate fairy stories and I believe that, perversely throughout history, more people have died in the name of one god or other than virtually anything else. Having said that I believe Jesus Christ to be one of the greatest role models of all. I’m just able to put him in the same category as the likes of Robin Hood and Gandalf.

You could also perhaps provide an example of what opinions you feel you’re not allowed to offer.