Airdrie ticket prices

[islaydarkblue]

Now to get back on the topic.
The ticket price for an OAP at the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie is ?15 which is only ?1 cheaper than the cost of a ticket for a Category B home league game this season which costs ?16.
An adult ticket for the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie is ?20 which is ?6 cheaper than the cost of a ticket for a Category B home league game this season which costs ?26.
Therefore in my opinion the cost of a concession ticket for the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie should be ?10 especially as season tickets are not valid for this game.
The management of Dundee Football Club will have to publish the correct number of people who attend the game and not the fictitious attendance figures published for League games.

[islaydarkblue]

Why do the rich a greater benefit? There must have been some reason, in the beginning, surely?

Just like working farmers whose family have farmed for years. It is understandable that they could have an asset value for their land that would put them into having to pay inheritance tax, and no cash to pay the tax. That's why they were exempt. Along comes some clever tax consultant and Dyson buys a farm which takes whatever he paid for it out of his inheritance tax liability. That's abuse of the system, in my book.

Maybe the Defined Contribution system of pension tax relief is being similarly abused by the rich? Pile money into your pension scheme and you take it out of the inheritance tax system and you don't pay income tax until you or your beneficiary takes money out.

There is a simple solution to prevent rich people purchasing farms to reduce their inheritance tax.
Make the cut off date for the purchase of new farms 2010 to avoid them being exempt from inheritance tax.
This would not affect families who have farmed for many years and in some cases over 100 years.
The politicians who dream up these laws are clueless and they are guided by equally clueless senior civil servants and special advisors who fall to do their homework before publishing these proposed new laws.

[Dodbroon]

Now to get back on the topic.
The ticket price for an OAP at the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie is ?15 which is only ?1 cheaper than the cost of a ticket for a Category B home league game this season which costs ?16.
An adult ticket for the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie is ?20 which is ?6 cheaper than the cost of a ticket for a Category B home league game this season which costs ?26.
Therefore in my opinion the cost of a concession ticket for the Airdrie FC Scottish Cup tie should be ?10 especially as season tickets are not valid for this game.
The management of Dundee Football Club will have to publish the correct number of people who attend the game and not the fictitious attendance figures published for League games.

The pricing structure is undoubtedly, as previously discussed on here, due to the 'abuse' of the concessions pricing (I'm told there were dozens turned away each game from the away gates at the Derbies, Celtic and Rangers games for having an underpriced ticket or no student I/d). Still not a bad overall pricing structure for the cup game though, imo.

As far as the stated attendance goes there will, as you say, be no non attending season ticket holder's to count in the crowd. The real thing that affects crowd numbers in cup ties is the simple fact that season's are not valid as they were in the past, certainly in the 60s, but when the current situation started I can't remember. Many having bought a season don't want to fork out any price to see a cup tie. Talking of the 60s and perhaps even after then crowd figures were largely estimated, either a ball park figure given out by the club or an educated guess by the press and usually a round figure. The club don't have to issue any figure at all if they so wish. They only have to share matchday financials with the other club in cup ties and in this case the SFA.

[Returnofrros]

The pricing structure is undoubtedly, as previously discussed on here, due to the 'abuse' of the concessions pricing (I'm told there were dozens turned away each game from the away gates at the Derbies, Celtic and Rangers games for having an underpriced ticket or no student I/d). Still not a bad overall pricing structure for the cup game though, imo.

As far as the stated attendance goes there will, as you say, be no non attending season ticket holder's to count in the crowd. The real thing that affects crowd numbers in cup ties is the simple fact that season's are not valid as they were in the past, certainly in the 60s, but when the current situation started I can't remember. Many having bought a season don't want to fork out any price to see a cup tie. Talking of the 60s and perhaps even after then crowd figures were largely estimated, either a ball park figure given out by the club or an educated guess by the press and usually a round figure. The club don't have to issue any figure at all if they so wish. They only have to share matchday financials with the other club in cup ties and in this case the SFA.

No concessions for middle aged adults and there can be no abuse......simple.

[Dodbroon]

No concessions for middle aged adults and there can be no abuse......simple.

Not sure how many adults posing as pensioners were caught out, maybe none. The ones refused entry were obvious adults 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s etc with u18 and u12 tickets.

[islaydarkblue]

The pricing structure is undoubtedly, as previously discussed on here, due to the 'abuse' of the concessions pricing (I'm told there were dozens turned away each game from the away gates at the Derbies, Celtic and Rangers games for having an underpriced ticket or no student I/d). Still not a bad overall pricing structure for the cup game though, imo.

As far as the stated attendance goes there will, as you say, be no non attending season ticket holder's to count in the crowd. The real thing that affects crowd numbers in cup ties is the simple fact that season's are not valid as they were in the past, certainly in the 60s, but when the current situation started I can't remember. Many having bought a season don't want to fork out any price to see a cup tie. Talking of the 60s and perhaps even after then crowd figures were largely estimated, either a ball park figure given out by the club or an educated guess by the press and usually a round figure. The club don't have to issue any figure at all if they so wish. They only have to share matchday financials with the other club in cup ties and in this case the SFA.

From memory the only season tickets at Dens Park in the 1960?s were in the centre stand with season ticket holders sitting on wooden tip up seats.
Ground season tickets were introduced during the mid 1970?s.

[BCram]

No concessions for middle aged adults and there can be no abuse......simple.

It would be interesting to know what the takings per game works out at. I imagine if the club could easily calculate the value of every St holder, on a per game basis. Say children at ?38 per St, concessions at ?285 for students and OAP's and full St's at ?380.if you assume there are an equal number of ST holders in each category, you would get ?2+?15+?20=?37 for a group of 3 ST holders. Make kids ?3 and you would need to charge a unified price of ?17 for the club to collect the ?37
Apologies for the arithmetic, I think it makes sense, but the club would have to use the actual number of ST holders in each category to work out the actual charge to create the same price for concessions and full price ST's and deliver the same revenue.

I don't know why the club doesn't think about their pricing and try to find a way that removes any incentive to try to best the system. Early Bird pricing seems to be the only marketing tool they have.

[Returnofrros]

It would be interesting to know what the takings per game works out at. I imagine if the club could easily calculate the value of every St holder, on a per game basis. Say children at ?38 per St, concessions at ?285 for students and OAP's and full St's at ?380.if you assume there are an equal number of ST holders in each category, you would get ?2+?15+?20=?37 for a group of 3 ST holders. Make kids ?3 and you would need to charge a unified price of ?17 for the club to collect the ?37
Apologies for the arithmetic, I think it makes sense, but the club would have to use the actual number of ST holders in each category to work out the actual charge to create the same price for concessions and full price ST's and deliver the same revenue.

I don't know why the club doesn't think about their pricing and try to find a way that removes any incentive to try to best the system. Early Bird pricing seems to be the only marketing tool they have.

I want the adult concessions gone and all concessions targeted at younger age groups.

I'd concede there's maybe an argument to give a discount to say over 80s as a lot of them will miss a lot of games due to the cauld.....but over 65 ( 60 until fairly recently ) nah no having it anymore.

Its auld hat and had it's day.

[BCram]

I want the adult concessions gone and all concessions targeted at younger age groups.

I'd concede there's maybe an argument to give a discount to say over 80s as a lot of them will miss a lot of games due to the cauld.....but over 65 ( 60 until fairly recently ) nah no having it anymore.

Its auld hat and had it's day.

I think that if you can show a better outcome for the club, you will have a better chance of moving the goalposts. Stating a belief will only get you so far imo. You need to give the club a reason to change and the expectation that there will be a benefit in increased revenue. I attended with my grandparents, getting lifted over the turnstiles was always encouraged. How do you police the cheaper prices for young fans? Maybe have specific turnstiles, maybe only available for part of the ground, maybe have an area of a stand where it's free seating?

Hope we beat Airdrie!

[Returnofrros]

I think that if you can show a better outcome for the club, you will have a better chance of moving the goalposts. Stating a belief will only get you so far imo. You need to give the club a reason to change and the expectation that there will be a benefit in increased revenue. I attended with my grandparents, getting lifted over the turnstiles was always encouraged. How do you police the cheaper prices for young fans? Maybe have specific turnstiles, maybe only available for part of the ground, maybe have an area of a stand where it's free seating?

Hope we beat Airdrie!

Club would benefit as I and thousands of away fans wouldn't pass for under 21 but we do over 65, it's never challenged at any ground from age 50 upwards.

Every young ane has a bus pass.....do they have photos on them?