O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[magpie_mania]

Mis quoted again, the Palestinians will be able to live there.Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people, same here.
The alternative with Gaza is to rinse and and repeat, which does not and has not worked,POTUS has an idea, a solution and it is liked by a lot of others in the middle east, obviously not the terrorists, who need wiping out.

Under what authority can he remove the Palestinians, take control of Gaza and decide who can then live there?

'Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people,'

In other words, ethnically cleanse the area.

This man is imo very, very dangerous.

[magpie_mania]

Last night, Donald Trump was asked by a reporter about his stance on Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

He said people "do like the idea" of Israel claiming sovereignty over the land there, "but we haven't taken a position on it yet."

Who are these 'people'?

[Lullapie]

In the days of the terrorism of the PLO and at the time of the troubles in Ireland I had envisaged a solution of moving the Irish to Palestine and the Palestinians to Ireland. Perhaps I should have run for office in the USA.

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[Lullapie]

Under what authority can he remove the Palestinians, take control of Gaza and decide who can then live there?

'Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people,'

In other words, ethnically cleanse the area.

This man is imo very, very dangerous.

So what is your qualified opinion for solving the problems in the Middle East?

Post it on here, just in case someone in power reads it and it?s something that no one has thought of before.

[Lullapie]

I agree about his temperament. He doesn't do himself any favours in the way he talks and acts. But like I said in a previous post, his target audience enjoy it, so he keep on doing it. I have no idea if there's a masterplan or not, but I'm fairly sure he's not the completely unhinged idiot the left makes him out to be.

That said, he's clearly not president material by any reasonable measure. Whether you agree with their views or not, the likes of JD Vance and Vivek Ramaswamy are in a different league in terms of intellect and temperament.

Like you, I think his administration could achieve some positive, much-needed outcomes. If they can shine a light on government inefficiency and wastefulness, that could provide a blueprint for other nations (like ours) to follow. The same goes for illegal/uncontrolled immigration, which isn't even a left-right issue but more about the rule of law and integrity of borders. Time will tell whether the positives outweigh the negatives though.

No one right of Bernie Sanders is Presidential material though to the crazy left.
Joe Biden and the the dream ticket of Harris and Walz???? Really?
They do nothing but line their own pockets, create jobs for their useless cronies and keep everyone else downtrodden to protect their own positions.
The Peter Principle in practice.

[Lullapie]

You mean forced expulsion, ethnic cleansing. He's giving Netanyahu, exactly what he wants, if the Palestinians are moved from Gaza, Israel will illegally, annexe and expand. The Palestinians will never be allowed to return.

The one thing that everybody is missing is that originally both the Jews and the Palestinians were nomadic.
Strictly speaking, the land is owned by neither.

[magpie_mania]

So what is your qualified opinion for solving the problems in the Middle East?

Post it on here, just in case someone in power reads it and it?s something that no one has thought of before.

If I was pushed I would say that it needs a 2 state solution.

So - by what authority can he do this? Seems that it is flying in the face of international law.

I thought that the International Criminal Court had issued an arrest warrant.

'The Chamber issued warrants of arrest for two individuals, Mr Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr Yoav Gallant, for crimes against humanity and war crimes committed from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024'

Not worth the paper it is written on, or Trump ignoring it?

[slack_pie]

No one right of Bernie Sanders is Presidential material though to the crazy left.
Joe Biden and the the dream ticket of Harris and Walz???? Really?
They do nothing but line their own pockets, create jobs for their useless cronies and keep everyone else downtrodden to protect their own positions.
The Peter Principle in practice.

I agree!

[Kent Magpie]

If I was pushed I would say that it needs a 2 state solution.

So - by what authority can he do this? Seems that it is flying in the face of international law.

I thought that the International Criminal Court had issued an arrest warrant.

'The Chamber issued warrants of arrest for two individuals, Mr Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr Yoav Gallant, for crimes against humanity and war crimes committed from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024'

Not worth the paper it is written on, or Trump ignoring it?

The US aren't signed up to the ICC, so they argue it has no jurisdiction in the US. They would also claim the same if Trump was to go ahead with this and would not recognise the legitimacy of the court. As US President he is immune from prosecution in the US itself, so he can do this outside international law without any fear of legal repercussions. International Relations would be in tatters though.

[Lullapie]

If I was pushed I would say that it needs a 2 state solution.

So - by what authority can he do this? Seems that it is flying in the face of international law.

I thought that the International Criminal Court had issued an arrest warrant.

'The Chamber issued warrants of arrest for two individuals, Mr Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr Yoav Gallant, for crimes against humanity and war crimes committed from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024'

Not worth the paper it is written on, or Trump ignoring it?

Firstly, thank you for your constructive post.


For a living I get paid to go into businesses that are decent businesses, but are failing in some way. The first question I ask is "why do you do it that way?" Nearly always the answer is because they've always done it like that.

If you keep doing something the same way and keep getting the same result, why should you be surprised?

Neither of us know what Trump's plans really are, but anything is worth a try. Seriously what country in the Middle East is Utopian?

As for the International Court, well they are there to amuse themselves and if they charged every politician when they commit an act that causes multiple deaths, there would be no politicians left to lead.

The IC is nothing more than a political gravy train, like the UN. I mean, why didn't they charge President Biden for his actions in Afghanistan that led to the deaths of 13 American soldiers and an unknown number of Afghanis?