O/T Trans in America

[Brin]

How times have changed......I remember flying the American airline 'Trans World Airlines' to the states many years ago!

😄 so did I pal

[animallittle3]

😄 so did I pal

At least the airline knew what it was .

[Spuddy Speight]

London Museum of Science have a LEGO exhibition which reinforces hetero***uality as "the norm".
What next?

Oh yes, Nancy Mace in the US Congress questions a witness about 2.5 million dollars being spent on lab studies on transgender mice!!

Up The Millers!!!

[frogmiller]

I?ve just got in from the market and see that on my bag is written.

When I grow up I want to be a unicorn 😂

[ragingpup]

But why should the LGB be forced to suffer the T+ group?

The real ***ual orientation of a group is well accepted but the trans and + are a fettish?

What makes you think that LBT are suffering the T+ group? They seem to be strong allies to me.

Quite shocked at the level of vitrial on here towards such an extremely vulnerable group of humans. Tolerate, fetish, abhorrant. I work with them as 16-18 year olds and I'm always struck by how vulnerable and confused they are, certainly at that age. I just don't get why there is so much hate that is grown and thrown at them. Cross dressers? People making comments on public forums really illuminating some quite stupendous ignorance there!

[Spuddy Speight]

What makes you think that LBT are suffering the T+ group? They seem to be strong allies to me.

Quite shocked at the level of vitrial on here towards such an extremely vulnerable group of humans. Tolerate, fetish, abhorrant. I work with them as 16-18 year olds and I'm always struck by how vulnerable and confused they are, certainly at that age. I just don't get why there is so much hate that is grown and thrown at them. Cross dressers? People making comments on public forums really illuminating some quite stupendous ignorance there!

Totally agree with most of the above post. I have never worked with 16-18 year olds.
I don't associate myself with anyone who makes horrid criticisms of people, yes people, who feel differently. That's their right.
I have recently given up on a long term pal who turned out to be homophobic.
My wife agrees with me.



Up The Millers!!!

[frogmiller]

What makes you think that LBT are suffering the T+ group? They seem to be strong allies to me.

Quite shocked at the level of vitrial on here towards such an extremely vulnerable group of humans. Tolerate, fetish, abhorrant. I work with them as 16-18 year olds and I'm always struck by how vulnerable and confused they are, certainly at that age. I just don't get why there is so much hate that is grown and thrown at them. Cross dressers? People making comments on public forums really illuminating some quite stupendous ignorance there!

It?s not ignorance it is state what used to happen and be said. It?s what used to be the norm. The world has moved on from where it was

Transvestites were cross dresses.
*** changers - Trans ***ual
Puffs - gay

I have mentioned a couple of times about how relatives and friends of mine do not like being associated with the alphabet flag (there words not mine)! The LGBTQ+

The pride marchers now ace sick ***ual acts acted out in front of kids. People pissing in paddling pools whilst people bath!

The pride march has been taken over and the exhibitionists are ruining it!

Raging I think it is great that your employment post helps the young confused. I had a post teaching immigrants how to adapt to the working expectations of France for a while and it is rewarding for all parties.

I would ask you this. You mentioned the vulnerability of those kids. How is it ok for you to have such an intolerant view on anyone who has a different view to yours.

Here is a Wikipedia take on the definition

LGBTQ (also commonly seen as LGBT,[1] LGBT+, LGBTQ+, LGBTQIA, and LGBTQIA+) is an initialism for lesbian, gay, bi***ual, transgender and queer or questioning. It is an umbrella term, originating in the United States, broadly referring to all ***ualities, romantic orientations, *** characteristics, and gender identities that are not hetero***ual, heteroromantic, cisgender, or endo***.[2][3][4]

A six-band rainbow flag representing the LGBTQ community
In the 1990s, gay, lesbian, and bi***ual activists adopted the initialism LGB. Terminology eventually shifted to LGBT, as transgender people gained recognition. Around that time, some activists began to reclaim the term queer, seeing it as a more radical and inclusive umbrella term, though others reject it, due to its history as a pejorative. In recognition of this, the 2010s saw the adoption of LGBTQ, and other more inclusive variants.
Some versions of the term, such as LGBT+ and LGBTQ+ add a plus sign, to represent additional identities not captured within the acronym. Many further variants exist which add additional identities, such as LGBTQIA+ (for inter***, a***ual, aromantic, and agender) and 2SLGBTQ+ (for two-spirit), LGBTQQ (for queer and questioning), or which order the letters differently, as in GLBT and GLBTQ.

[ragingpup]

It?s not ignorance it is state what used to happen and be said. It?s what used to be the norm. The world has moved on from where it was

Transvestites were cross dresses.
*** changers - Trans ***ual
Puffs - gay

I have mentioned a couple of times about how relatives and friends of mine do not like being associated with the alphabet flag (there words not mine)! The LGBTQ+

The pride marchers now ace sick ***ual acts acted out in front of kids. People pissing in paddling pools whilst people bath!

The pride march has been taken over and the exhibitionists are ruining it!

Raging I think it is great that your employment post helps the young confused. I had a post teaching immigrants how to adapt to the working expectations of France for a while and it is rewarding for all parties.

I would ask you this. You mentioned the vulnerability of those kids. How is it ok for you to have such an intolerant view on anyone who has a different view to yours.

Here is a Wikipedia take on the definition

LGBTQ (also commonly seen as LGBT,[1] LGBT+, LGBTQ+, LGBTQIA, and LGBTQIA+) is an initialism for lesbian, gay, bi***ual, transgender and queer or questioning. It is an umbrella term, originating in the United States, broadly referring to all ***ualities, romantic orientations, *** characteristics, and gender identities that are not hetero***ual, heteroromantic, cisgender, or endo***.[2][3][4]

A six-band rainbow flag representing the LGBTQ community
In the 1990s, gay, lesbian, and bi***ual activists adopted the initialism LGB. Terminology eventually shifted to LGBT, as transgender people gained recognition. Around that time, some activists began to reclaim the term queer, seeing it as a more radical and inclusive umbrella term, though others reject it, due to its history as a pejorative. In recognition of this, the 2010s saw the adoption of LGBTQ, and other more inclusive variants.
Some versions of the term, such as LGBT+ and LGBTQ+ add a plus sign, to represent additional identities not captured within the acronym. Many further variants exist which add additional identities, such as LGBTQIA+ (for inter***, a***ual, aromantic, and agender) and 2SLGBTQ+ (for two-spirit), LGBTQQ (for queer and questioning), or which order the letters differently, as in GLBT and GLBTQ.

My use of the term ignorant was in relation to reference to trans equating to cross dressers, as if transvestite and tran***ual are being mistaken for one and the same thing! I'm quite tolerent of the different views on mixing in sports, but my only observation in my post is really one of bemusement about the level of hate being directed at trans people, and how contracsting that is to my lived experience of meeting some of them.

You point to "pride marchers" act out sick ***ual acts in front of children and you use this as a way to damn everyone who attend Pride marches. What evidence do you have that this is anything other than the usual idiot minority that attach to any movement, including football supporters? There are thousands who attend these marches, and the vast, vast majority so not do anything like commit *** acts - it sounds like your condemning them all as one?

[frogmiller]

My use of the term ignorant was in relation to reference to trans equating to cross dressers, as if transvestite and tran***ual are being mistaken for one and the same thing! I'm quite tolerent of the different views on mixing in sports, but my only observation in my post is really one of bemusement about the level of hate being directed at trans people, and how contracsting that is to my lived experience of meeting some of them.

You point to "pride marchers" act out sick ***ual acts in front of children and you use this as a way to damn everyone who attend Pride marches. What evidence do you have that this is anything other than the usual idiot minority that attach to any movement, including football supporters? There are thousands who attend these marches, and the vast, vast majority so not do anything like commit *** acts - it sounds like your condemning them all as one?

The exhibitionists are taking away the acceptance that the LGB have worked hard to gain.

I am quite happy to call out any one extreme in any organisation because it takes away the normalit searched for and earned in the original fight!

Having male participants in female sport is wrong! Why do they have female and male sports?

[Eternal Optimist]

From Rupert Lowe, MP...


If a grown man believes that he is a woman, and takes steps to live his life to reflect that? Good for him. None of my business, it has absolutely nothing to do with me.

However, when the rest of society is bullied into submission to accommodate that - we should draw the line.

We should not tolerate being forced to call them women. It's just not true.

Certainly not allowing access to women's sport, where a biological male has vast physical advantages. Trump's position on this is the right one - it should be banned. It is entirely unfair and unjust.

Women-only spaces must remain solely for women.

The policing of our language on this, particularly in a medical context, has to stop. It's dangerous, warped and does not represent actual reality.

Men cannot get pregnant, and women cannot have a *****. Sorry, but that's just a fact.

And most of all? Stop forcing the idea that we can be born in the 'wrong' bodies on impressionable children. That poison needs to be kept AWAY from schools - ban it, and sack anyone in any position of authority who forces it on young boys and girls, potentially leading to permanent life-altering medical procedures.

Grown adults are free to live their lives however they choose, but do not expect the rest of the country to change how it operates to accommodate this.

We need to be respectful of individual choices, but we must not deny reality.