O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[forwardmagpie]

Hmmmm. I keep reading others on here saying that Brexit would have been great if it had been implemented properly. It was obvious at the time of the vote that Boris and his cronies would be the ones implementing it. It was also obvious that they were clueless. They didn?t think they would win, and had no credible plan in place when they did. If you think that Farage would have done a better job, we will have to respectfully disagree.

A lot of obvious in the above Elite.

I don?t think Mr Farage should have been involved in the post Brexit negotiations.

Mr Cameron didn?t have a plan as it appears he felt if leaked it could affect the voting . This was a dereliction of duty and a disgrace.

I think that the Government (May, Johnson and Sunkak) and the Civil Service could and should have a much better job than they did.

This has left us with a lot of the downsides of Brexit without enough of the benefits. This needs sorting but I am not sure who would be the best person to sort it but my belief is that Mr Starmer is not that man. In the words of Angela Rayner he couldn?t run a bath. I am not sure that Mr Farage is the best person either or Ms Badenock.

So while I am a Brexit supporter (mainly due to my dislike of the EU parliament) I am unsure how we can resolve the issues it has created.

[Elite_Pie]

A lot of obvious in the above Elite.

I don?t think Mr Farage should have been involved in the post Brexit negotiations.

Mr Cameron didn?t have a plan as it appears he felt if leaked it could affect the voting . This was a dereliction of duty and a disgrace.

I think that the Government (May, Johnson and Sunkak) and the Civil Service could and should have a much better job than they did.

This has left us with a lot of the downsides of Brexit without enough of the benefits. This needs sorting but I am not sure who would be the best person to sort it but my belief is that Mr Starmer is not that man. In the words of Angela Rayner he couldn?t run a bath. I am not sure that Mr Farage is the best person either or Ms Badenock.

So while I am a Brexit supporter (mainly due to my dislike of the EU parliament) I am unsure how we can resolve the issues it has created.

Some fair points, but I would reply to your last sentence. The issues can?t be resolved because despite the obvious issues with the EU, it was still in our best interests overall to remain.

[Med Pie]

Some fair points, but I would reply to your last sentence. The issues can?t be resolved because despite the obvious issues with the EU, it was still in our best interests overall to remain.

In admitting the tiny, poor countries at significant cost to the rest, rather than raising standards across the EU, they ensure the bankrupting of the larger economies who must subsidise them. From memory, the last time I looked, I think only three or four countries were net, contributors, the rest being beneficiaries.

I always liken it to having won the pools and being comfortable for life but then, a horde of relatives descend and suddenly, the money you won is more thinly spread. Europe's wealth will evaporate in to the pockets of the corrupt, smaller countries and with the poorest country of all, Albania, waiting in the wings to join, expect that process to accelerate.