Not good enough

[Deeranged]

Relegation looming, best we can hope for is play off but even that seems unlikely after recent performances.

No fight in this team, usually the opposition's first goal puts their heads down but we scored first today and seemed to give up after it.

Not acceptable and, although I don't really like to say it, the manager's job must be in some doubt now. Just doesn't seem to be able to put out either a consistent team and his signings are significantly lacking in heart. I'm not going to say he's clueless but I know many fans are going to.

[deecom]

Doc doesn't change the style of play to suit the opposition.
in a game like today, some teams would put five in the midfield, we are leaking goals every week and our team spirit has gone.
To be honest , todays result was not a surprise.

[Returnofrros]

Really poor.

Aways, want aways, loans and foreign players......ain't a good mix.

Can still get out of trouble but lose next two, favs for automatic unfortunately.

[islaydarkblue]

Relegation looming, best we can hope for is play off but even that seems unlikely after recent performances.

No fight in this team, usually the opposition's first goal puts their heads down but we scored first today and seemed to give up after it.

Not acceptable and, although I don't really like to say it, the manager's job must be in some doubt now. Just doesn't seem to be able to put out either a consistent team and his signings are significantly lacking in heart. I'm not going to say he's clueless but I know many fans are going to.

In the past after being defeated 6-0 two games in a row the manager would have tendered his resignation with immediate effect but now they just seem to tough it out and wait to be sacked.

[GB72]

That January window killed us, 3 of the 4 signings wouldn?t get a game for any other premiership club, too young, too soft, and the manager now has to the brunt of the huge criticism coming his way, if he stays it looks very bleak

[BP33]

That January window killed us, 3 of the 4 signings wouldn?t get a game for any other premiership club, too young, too soft, and the manager now has to the brunt of the huge criticism coming his way, if he stays it looks very bleak

IMO, he has to stay, at least for 5he next 3/4 games. Agree signings apart from Donnelly bizarre.

[GB72]

IMO, he has to stay, at least for 5he next 3/4 games. Agree signings apart from Donnelly bizarre.

Could be miles off 10th, and potentially bottom after next 4 games.

Only an awful saints side is keeping us off bottom.

We must be the only team in the world that scores an early goal and goes into our shell, that first 30 minutes yesterday was brutal, we were miles off it, only improved when county took foot off has a bit 2nd half.

It?s not working, we are taking 0-6 pumpings at home, losing 3 times to County in 6 months, and signing players who wouldn?t get a game for some Championship sides.

Crying out for a striker in window, we sign a left back who doesn?t play, and two Mexicans who aren?t up to scratch, one is ok, but again very young.

Look at St M yesterday, team full of hardened pros, digging out a result at ibrox, whilst we were capitulating at County, we won?t sack him, cause I don?t think the chief exec is really that bothered, and everything seems matey matey.

The 3 worst teams in the league are ourselves, Saints and Motherwell, there?s a reason the other two have changed their manager.

[Returnofrros]

No idea how much control Doc has over our signings, no idea if he thought we were good enough with what we had but the letting go of the much maligned Curtis Main seems increasingly bizzare without any intention of bringing in a replacement.

We look soft as **** all over the park with players looking increasingly disinterested and looking to blame each other.

I'm not one for calling for managers heads on a platter ( mcpake was an exception ) but the clubs continued status in the top flight must come before any loyalty to any manager.

I agree it means diddly squat to nelms what league we are in.....he will just charge more for the few that remain but if he has any feelings about relegation to make a decision quickly on Docherty and stick with it.

I hate it when players have the power to " down tools " on a manager but I got the feeling yesterday that some have.

[islaydarkblue]

No idea how much control Doc has over our signings, no idea if he thought we were good enough with what we had but the letting go of the much maligned Curtis Main seems increasingly bizzare without any intention of bringing in a replacement.

We look soft as **** all over the park with players looking increasingly disinterested and looking to blame each other.

I'm not one for calling for managers heads on a platter ( mcpake was an exception ) but the clubs continued status in the top flight must come before any loyalty to any manager.

I agree it means diddly squat to nelms what league we are in.....he will just charge more for the few that remain but if he has any feelings about relegation to make a decision quickly on Docherty and stick with it.

I hate it when players have the power to " down tools " on a manager but I got the feeling yesterday that some have.

During the 2021-22 season when we were in the Premier League our total income was ?4.9 million and our total expenditure was ?5.9 million.
During the 2022-23 season when were in the Championship our total income was ?3.2 million and our total expenditure was ?6.087 million.
The wages and salaries in the 2021-22 season was ?3.6 million.
The wages and salaries in the 2022-23 season was ?3.4 million.
Amazingly despite being relegated from the Premier League at the end of the 2021 season the number of staff employed by Dundee Football Club increased from 59 to 68.

[BCram]

No idea how much control Doc has over our signings, no idea if he thought we were good enough with what we had but the letting go of the much maligned Curtis Main seems increasingly bizzare without any intention of bringing in a replacement.

We look soft as **** all over the park with players looking increasingly disinterested and looking to blame each other.

I'm not one for calling for managers heads on a platter ( mcpake was an exception ) but the clubs continued status in the top flight must come before any loyalty to any manager.

I agree it means diddly squat to nelms what league we are in.....he will just charge more for the few that remain but if he has any feelings about relegation to make a decision quickly on Docherty and stick with it.

I hate it when players have the power to " down tools " on a manager but I got the feeling yesterday that some have.

Think the problem is that TD isn't totally responsible for recruitment. Agree about the style of signings, not what we require for a team that's hard to beat.