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[Trickytreesreds]

I see the LBH and Putin apologist is at it again with a very specific slant on history.

whose the apologist?

[MadAmster]

whose the apologist?

I think he wants you to take a look in the mirror...

[Trickytreesreds]

I think he wants you to take a look in the mirror...

I'd like him to show me, exactly where I've apologised for Putin or show me exactly where I am supporting him. As normal, he's talking out his ass.

[ramAnag]

There is a difference between defending/justifying and approving/supporting. I said ‘defending’ NOT ‘supporting’ or ‘apologising for’. In at least two posts during your earlier difference with MA you did the former. (#2736 & 2739)

[Trickytreesreds]

There is a difference between defending/justifying and approving/supporting. I said ‘defending’ NOT ‘supporting’ or ‘apologising for’. In at least two posts during your earlier difference with MA you did the former. (#2736 & 2739)

again garbage, can you not read. ??

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He's a horrible piece of work is Putin, but the EU etc pushed him into a corner. Lets not forget that.

You bend my words as deems you fit.
Take 10 names Tommy. I don't agree with his methods at all. Yet he has a right to voice his opinion, until he steps outside the law.
he was the first to raise the grooming gang problem that no one wanted him to talk about.
Yoiu may have sooner he had said nothing, but this country has a right to free speech and opinion. Seems even he under estimated the problem and has been hounded by plod ever since.

sO NO OPINION THEN, ON 2 COPPERS SHOWING UP ON A WOMANS DOORSTEP? All she did was show his disgruntlement with a Labour councillor. The coppers admit she has broken no laws or committed a crime, yet are there to offer words of advice? Sounds like the Stasi to me and considering you can't normally get a copper to your door for a crime, makes this look laughable.

So. I'll leave it to you, to show resounding evidence of my defending. The fact I pointed out the EU had a part in this war flaring up, seems to be something, you don't want to discuss.

[ramAnag]

again garbage, can you not read. ??

Quote-

He's a horrible piece of work is Putin, but the EU etc pushed him into a corner. Lets not forget that.

You bend my words as deems you fit.
Take 10 names Tommy. I don't agree with his methods at all. Yet he has a right to voice his opinion, until he steps outside the law.
he was the first to raise the grooming gang problem that no one wanted him to talk about.
Yoiu may have sooner he had said nothing, but this country has a right to free speech and opinion. Seems even he under estimated the problem and has been hounded by plod ever since.

sO NO OPINION THEN, ON 2 COPPERS SHOWING UP ON A WOMANS DOORSTEP? All she did was show his disgruntlement with a Labour councillor. The coppers admit she has broken no laws or committed a crime, yet are there to offer words of advice? Sounds like the Stasi to me and considering you can't normally get a copper to your door for a crime, makes this look laughable.

So. I'll leave it to you, to show resounding evidence of my defending. The fact I pointed out the EU had a part in this war flaring up, seems to be something, you don't want to discuss.

Just remaining on topic Tricky and you know I seldom respond to your video clips.

Not much wrong with my reading but just to be clear, you wrote…

‘He’s a horrible piece of work is Putin, but the EU pushed him into a corner. Let’s not forget that.’

You followed that up with…

‘Folks forget with Russians that they trust the west very little. They were happy with the buffer zone of the iron curtain after WW2. Since that fell, they feel encroached on ever since and the more of those areas join NATO and the EU, the worse they get.’

No bending your words, but that seems like a defence of Putin and of recent Russian actions to me. Even your attempted justification seems to me to attach blame to the EU however I’m happy to let others decide where your sympathies lie.

[Trickytreesreds]

Just remaining on topic Tricky and you know I seldom respond to your video clips.

Not much wrong with my reading but just to be clear, you wrote?

?He?s a horrible piece of work is Putin, but the EU pushed him into a corner. Let?s not forget that.?

You followed that up with?

?Folks forget with Russians that they trust the west very little. They were happy with the buffer zone of the iron curtain after WW2. Since that fell, they feel encroached on ever since and the more of those areas join NATO and the EU, the worse they get.?

No bending your words, but that seems like a defence of Putin and of recent Russian actions to me. Even your attempted justification seems to me to attach blame to the EU however I?m happy to let others decide where your sympathies lie.

jesus wept, how is that defending him?

Those comments are facts. I know you understand history, but are we not allowed to quote it now?

Everyone knows these facts and politicians should be wary any actions they take that rattle those facts , are complicit in the situation.
The EU and western politicians knew the risks and did it anyway.
That is not defending Putin, he's a maniac and knows that unless he keeps complete control, he's toast from within.

Amazing how even little old me, could see the risks, but all these clever politicians couldn't.
Did they learn nothing at school?

Here's a little light reading for you, about the psychology of the nutter and his lust for power.
You can heap all the blame on Putin as much as you want, but the EU in particular did its part,

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...lped-shape-him