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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    In the history of daft answers that has to be one of the silliest.

    So you think a minority of people in your village (sorry, actually one person) ‘hijacking’s flag poles’ is symptomatic of the UK losing its culture do you? Honestly?

    My ‘berkas slipping’. What’s that meant to mean? Not as much as your grasp of common sense it would seem…and my comment (relayed from Germany) was simply to illustrate how dependent various services have become on those who’ve arrived from abroad, it wasn’t designed to set off one of your rants, but hey ho.
    It's not just Germany that's becoming dependent on imported labour in public sectors... It's prevalent in UK maybe even to a greater extent, and not just in low pay environments. I am now almost surprised to encounter a "WASP" in daily life, from Uber drivers to nurses to hospital porters to doctors and consultants, cleaners baristas, even accountants and lawyers. It's no longer just the jobs the indigenous population didn't want to do, but across all sectors and remuneration grade.

    We are I would suggest so far into dependence on imported labour (including 2nd and 3rd generation) that it's a hole we can't get out of if we wanted to. Services would collapse if we "made Britain white again"

    Which is not to say we should take all the illegal migrants that would not pass the "missing skills in the UK marketplace" rest but we have to face the facts that UK is an evolving community. The sooner we can focus on togetherness rather than differences the better - but this is a two way commitment to tolerance and I fear we are bending over too far backwards in favour of imported culture at the expense of our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    It's not just Germany that's becoming dependent on imported labour in public sectors... It's prevalent in UK maybe even to a greater extent, and not just in low pay environments. I am now almost surprised to encounter a "WASP" in daily life, from Uber drivers to nurses to hospital porters to doctors and consultants, cleaners baristas, even accountants and lawyers. It's no longer just the jobs the indigenous population didn't want to do, but across all sectors and remuneration grade.

    We are I would suggest so far into dependence on imported labour (including 2nd and 3rd generation) that it's a hole we can't get out of if we wanted to. Services would collapse if we "made Britain white again"

    Which is not to say we should take all the illegal migrants that would not pass the "missing skills in the UK marketplace" rest but we have to face the facts that UK is an evolving community. The sooner we can focus on togetherness rather than differences the better - but this is a two way commitment to tolerance and I fear we are bending over too far backwards in favour of imported culture at the expense of our own.
    Well at least that’s an intelligent response. I don’t entirely agree with the second half of the final sentence but I can understand how some might feel that way and I’m sure it’s a view based on something more significant than one person ‘hijacking village flagpoles’.
    For me the phrases, ‘the UK is an evolving community’ and ‘the sooner we can focus on togetherness rather than differences the better’ are key…and yes I agree, it does need to be a ‘two way commitment’.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 28-02-2025 at 07:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    The sooner we can focus on togetherness rather than differences the better - but this is a two way commitment to tolerance and I fear we are bending over too far backwards in favour of imported culture at the expense of our own.
    ?and to paraphrase an acquaintance of mine who recently quit her NHS job ?I felt like an outside in a business where immigrants tend to immigrants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    In the history of daft answers that has to be one of the silliest.

    So you think a minority of people in your village (sorry, actually one person) ‘hijacking’s flag poles’ is symptomatic of the UK losing its culture do you? Honestly?

    My ‘berkas slipping’. What’s that meant to mean? Not as much as your grasp of common sense it would seem…and my comment (relayed from Germany) was simply to illustrate how dependent various services have become on those who’ve arrived from abroad, it wasn’t designed to set off one of your rants, but hey ho.
    ..
    ?.which yet again exposes your by now rather boring tactics - a point is made which you don?t agree with. You demand examples. You get examples. You belittle, without researching, the examples and belittle the person who offered them. I will break with my normal restraint and say God help any student you ever disagreed with. I observe that you embrace any anecdote that sides with you despite some recently, and I?m now not surprised you were unaware, being no more than urban myths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    ?and to paraphrase an acquaintance of mine who recently quit her NHS job ?I felt like an outside in a business where immigrants tend to immigrants?
    Did she used to star in a sixties sit-com and go by the name of Alf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
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    ?.which yet again exposes your by now rather boring tactics - a point is made which you don?t agree with. You demand examples. You get examples. You belittle, without researching, the examples and belittle the person who offered them. I will break with my normal restraint and say God help any student you ever disagreed with. I observe that you embrace any anecdote that sides with you despite some recently, and I?m now not surprised you were unaware, being no more than urban myths
    Andy, what you’ve written tonight is rubbish. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. Without going back into history, because this isn’t the first time, if you’re asked for examples of how UK culture is being eroded and the best you can come up with is a minority (no, ONE person) who hijacked some flagpoles in ‘your village’ then you’ve lost the argument and as regards your last sentence, it isn’t even intelligible.

    You and I will often disagree, that’s almost the point of a forum, but you really do need to have a good look at what you’ve written tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Did she used to star in a sixties sit-com and go by the name of Alf?
    And whoops you did it again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Andy, what you’ve written tonight is rubbish. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. Without going back into history, because this isn’t the first time, if you’re asked for examples of how UK culture is being eroded and the best you can come up with is a minority (no, ONE person) who hijacked some flagpoles in ‘your village’ then you’ve lost the argument and as regards your last sentence, it isn’t even intelligible.

    You and I will often disagree, that’s almost the point of a forum, but you really do need to have a good look at what you’ve written tonight.
    I'm feeling that my standing of always disagreeing with you is being usurped. Time to act to restore the status quo. Sink the boats. Put the illegals in council property in Nottingham, they will soon want to return to point of origin. But most of all stop disadvantaging our own homeless and benefits dependent sub classes with preferences to boat people.

    Hg a, that's better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    And whoops you did it again?
    Did what? Exposed a bit of casual racism? Yes you’re probably right, it’s a habit of mine. Honestly, just think about the implications of what you’ve written/repeated…that the NHS is prioritising immigrants. It’s just totally unfounded jibberish. You have a think and leave me to watch the rugby please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Did what? Exposed a bit of casual racism? Yes you?re probably right, it?s a habit of mine. Honestly, just think about the implications of what you?ve written/repeated?that the NHS is prioritising immigrants. It?s just totally unfounded jibberish. You have a think and leave me to watch the rugby please.
    So you dismiss a lovely, hard-working woman with an experience-based insight as racist, people with your mentality who pull the racist card at the slightest excuse really cause more harm than good. She isn?t suggesting that NHS are prioritising immigrants, nor did I write such, again it?s your trigger-happy response mechanism coming into play

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