Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
The only way it can work is if Zelenskyy puts "pride" to one side and allows Trump and Putin to walk all over him. Incredibly, Trump seems to be persuading some (maybe you?) that this conflict is six of one and half a dozen of the other, rather than an illegal invasion.
And there you go with the pride thing Elite. Is it an illegal invasion? Probably. Is it going to be resolve with the current status quo? Almost certainly not. It's not a question of persuasion for me it's a question of resolution. Arguing about whether or not it is an illegal invasion which it probably is isn't going to resolve it. The Trump camp has a better chance of resolution than anyone else. Of course you can argue separately about the cost of that, or we can all butt out leave them to it and see what the outcome of that is ( 100's of thousands of deaths and probably a Russian walkover and complete territorial grab). Or we can negotiate maybe Ukraine has to concede land and Russia has to concede that it won't get what it entirely wants being the much bigger player in the war on a 1:1 basis and therefore being able to dictate terms somewhat.