Originally Posted by
ragingpup
So what should they give up animal?
The concern for me is that many in Russia resent the ending of the former USSR and the worry for these former USSR states is that Russia will in time use military force to take back these now soverign countries, as they are doing with Russia. This for me (anmd just my opiniion from reading a bit of history) has echoes of how the German empire was carved up after WW1 and eventually led to the Nazi's ultimate plan of Lebensraum, aiming to capture their former territories and move even further into Russia where they had large German settlements in the 19th century.
So if we are in general agreement that Britain and the allies were just in standing up to the Nazis's plans as they activated their plans with the invasion of Poland, shouldn't we be just as concerned and vigilant in uniting with other countries to oppose Putin's first moves in invading Ukraine? In what was is the current situation different to then? Also, remember that Chamberlain thought he had averted being pulled into the war by the Munich agreement, whereby we agreed that Germany could take the Sudetenland if it promised not to make further demands for European land. Concessions with such leaders rarely produces what we want - we need to know their 'end plan'.
We could take the view that Putin doesn't have eyes on anything beyond the former USSR countries and therefore shouldn't get involved, leave tthem to defend themselves. But again, looking at history, Germany and the Nazi's initially only wanted back their former 1918 Empire estates, but it didn't stop them going into surrounding countries including coming for us. I personally don't think appeasement of such leaders and their actions in invading soverign countries, and should confront them at source. Just my opinion, but one with some history reading behind it.
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