Sack him, save our season

[SmiffyPie]

Let's also accept that the current poor run of results (compared to a team at full strength, DM.JJ.DC.SA etc) is down to more than just SM.

[jackal2]

I would be very disappointed if Williams came back. Hopefully he has more about him than to even contemplate it if it was offered

I want a return to the quality of entertainment Williams' teams provided, but I don't mind whether that comes from him or any other manager, including Maynard if he can achieve it. What we've been forced to watch in the past two months, especially at Meadow Lane, has been utter crap.

[the_anticlough]

I want a return to the quality of entertainment Williams' teams provided, .

Crucial point...
Although I wish fans realised that this usually comes with more goals conceded. Fine for me, but some seem genuinely traumatised with each goal against.

[jackal2]

Crucial point...
Although I wish fans realised that this usually comes with more goals conceded. Fine for me, but some seem genuinely traumatised with each goal against.

False dilemma.

Obviously an important part of football is keeping the ball out of your net, but I think it's possible to have entertaining football without being completely wide open. As I've said above, the biggest problem facing Williams when we stepped up a level was that our defence wasn't sufficiently upgraded. The recruitment team did make a mistake on that one, probably out of loyalty. I doubt that if Williams or Maynard had Platt and Bedeau at their disposal last season we would have shipped the number of goals we did with the likes of Cameron and Rawlinson, who evidently weren't quite up to the higher standard.

[matt_magpie]

Question is for me if you let him go now who do you get? Do you roll the dice on Williams or Lindsay or is there someone else, there?s no one jumping out at me in L2, not sure about the NL?

[The_Pie_Man]

Frankly, who cares if Maynard has been *unlucky*? That is life - I doubt anyone on this message board has not been through difficulties at work, some of which are down to the individual, some not.

It is the job of a manager to work through the problems they are faced with - and unfortunately, SM has failed.

As for replacements, I could not possibly comment as my knowledge of lower league managers is not strong enough - but I refuse to believe there are not managers out there within our budget who could do better.

[irishpete]

Forget Williams. He left to be closer to family, so unless Swansea or Nottingham has moved, he won't be back, plus how can you say he wouldn't do the same again as soon as a job came up. Swansea wasn't the first time he nearly left if all is to be believed.
He also moaned about the players he needed & was also on a dire run when he left.
His pattern of play was the same as SM's.....predictable

[SwalePie]

Frankly, who cares if Maynard has been *unlucky*? That is life - I doubt anyone on this message board has not been through difficulties at work, some of which are down to the individual, some not.

It is the job of a manager to work through the problems they are faced with - and unfortunately, SM has failed.

As for replacements, I could not possibly comment as my knowledge of lower league managers is not strong enough - but I refuse to believe there are not managers out there within our budget who could do better.

Surely we can't know whether he's failed until promotion is no longer possible? I'm not saying we'll make it but it is definitely still possible. If he were to get us promoted, he'd clearly have worked his way through the problems as you put it. Most of the bookies still think it more likely than not...even after Saturday's result.

[the_anticlough]

False dilemma.

Obviously an important part of football is keeping the ball out of your net, but I think it's possible to have entertaining football without being completely wide open.

I said nothing about being completely wide open and nothing about last season
Everyone knows there's a trade-off between playing positive, attacking football and being more vulnerable at the back when teams counter.

Many posters have been complaining about the dip in entertainment. And there definitely has been a dip. There's no secret to it, SM was very upfront about plugging the gaps and tweaking the system - but changes like 2 CMs always sitting and certain restrictions on wing-backs have knock-on effects to a team's attacking potency. Most posters lapped this up, as in their own words they'd much rather see a 0-0 or 1-1 than a 5-5. They'll still be there but all the new fans we won will vote with their feet - 7,000 crowds and falling.

[The_Pie_Man]

Surely we can't know whether he's failed until promotion is no longer possible? I'm not saying we'll make it but it is definitely still possible. If he were to get us promoted, he'd clearly have worked his way through the problems as you put it. Most of the bookies still think it more likely than not...even after Saturday's result.

SwalePie - come on. I know you are generally far more positive than most posters on here and actively enjoy playing devils advocate, but a dose of reality is required.

We are 23rd in the form table at a crucial time of the season, our performances are deteriorating fast, the majority of the players look entirely disinterested, we are beset by injuries and our manager is floundering. The bookies are hedging their bets based on our league position throughout the year - but they are not watching the listless performances week after week like we are.

The way we are playing, there is zero chance of promotion. You cannot seriously believe we would beat the likes of Bradford, Walsall, Wimbledon et al in the playoffs.

At the moment, we would struggle to beat an egg.