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Thread: Clarke Gone

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadrack the Red View Post
    As I said the other day that they would sack Clarke to deflect the blame for their incompetence , I did not have to possess Mystic Meg type qualities to be on the button, they will try and put some spin on it about how he has not done this or he has not done that , he didn"t play this way or he didn"t play that way and the gullible on here will swallow it hook line and sinker when the truth is Clarke like his predecessor have been sold down the river by our clueless owners , they standard of recruitment has been laughable , the communication and pr with the fans has been laughable etc etc etc. I hope the poor sole who ends up with the gig realises that he will be expected to work miracles and when this fails he will be made a scapegoat and used to deflect the blame again , I felt sorry for Collins, I feel sorry for Clarke and the next sacrificial lamb has already got my sympathy , until we get rid of the root of the problem then the decline will only get worse .
    100% behind that

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    ... Clarke wasn't ever going to get away with that home performance against Blackpool, on the back of where we are at in the season.
    The players had clearly downed tools in my opinion, which to be honest says more about them than it does Clarke...
    That's a phrase that I often use as well, that 'downed tools' suggestion, which really sums up these players.
    They did it this time last year under Collins (which got him sacked), and here they are doing it again under Clarke (which has now also got him sacked). 😠
    Player power goes way too far these days, but then again, I'd say it has always existed.

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    Question now is - who do we want next?
    My choice - and I know people are going to scoff at this - but my choice would be Danny Rohl.
    If ever a HC fitted Barnsley then it would be Rohl.
    His style fits Barnsley perfectly.

    If Rohl can get that bag of rubbish playing at S6 then he can definitely get our lot playing - as we still have more talented players here.

    Supporters may dismiss this idea - as Wendy have a bigger fan base.
    But our owner - is far wealthier than Looney Chansiri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young_Nudger View Post
    Question now is - who do we want next?
    My choice - and I know people are going to scoff at this - but my choice would be Danny Rohl.
    If ever a HC fitted Barnsley then it would be Rohl.
    His style fits Barnsley perfectly.

    If Rohl can get that bag of rubbish playing at S6 then he can definitely get our lot playing - as we still have more talented players here.

    Supporters may dismiss this idea - as Wendy have a bigger fan base.
    But our owner - is far wealthier than Looney Chansiri.
    That med mi spit mi cuppa tea art

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    I always got the impression the job was too big for Clarke , this was the biggest job he'd landed thus far in his career and I sensed it daunted him a little .

    With all due respect to Port Vale , Walsall and Cheltenham this club is different gravy from his previous assignments , I sensed he was out of his depth at times and it showed with some of his substitutions , it's generally not a good idea to throw your players under the bus when you haven't exactly set the world alight when it comes to football management .

    Neil Warnock can get away with it because his record in management stacks up but I'm afraid Clarke's doesn't .

    That said he wasn't supported in the January window what so ever and the squad right from the off was never balanced in my opinion .

    Those tasked with providing what Clarke needed have also to take their share of the blame and it actually turns my stomach to see them remain at the club and will probably fuq the next HC up too .

    My thoughts on Hourihane are this , he's unproven as a HC but that never stopped Allan Clarke , Norman Hunter or Danny Wilson having outstanding success although times were different then .

    However Hourihane does have something the last two HC's didn't have and that's a bit of clout , he was a very popular player here with history that pre dates those running this shyte show on Grove Street .

    In a battle of whose fault it is if things go tyts up under Hourihane those tasked with supporting him might want to actually do that because Hourihane's previous at this club gives him a huge amount of credit with the bank .

    They'll not be able to sell Hourihane down the river like they've done with Collins and Clarke and get away with it with the fans .

    They've just inadvertently and potentially exposed themselves if Hourihane gets the gig full time , the fans aren't going to turn on Hourihane no matter what .

    Not in a million years .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    I always got the impression the job was too big for Clarke , this was the biggest job he'd landed thus far in his career and I sensed it daunted him a little .

    With all due respect to Port Vale , Walsall and Cheltenham this club is different gravy from his previous assignments , I sensed he was out of his depth at times and it showed with some of his substitutions , it's generally not a good idea to throw your players under the bus when you haven't exactly set the world alight when it comes to football management .

    Neil Warnock can get away with it because his record in management stacks up but I'm afraid Clarke's doesn't .

    That said he wasn't supported in the January window what so ever and the squad right from the off was never balanced in my opinion .

    Those tasked with providing what Clarke needed have also to take their share of the blame and it actually turns my stomach to see them remain at the club and will probably fuq the next HC up too .

    My thoughts on Hourihane are this , he's unproven as a HC but that never stopped Allan Clarke , Norman Hunter or Danny Wilson having outstanding success although times were different then .

    However Hourihane does have something the last two HC's didn't have and that's a bit of clout , he was a very popular player here with history that pre dates those running this shyte show on Grove Street .

    In a battle of whose fault it is if things go tyts up under Hourihane those tasked with supporting him might want to actually do that because Hourihane's previous at this club gives him a huge amount of credit with the bank .

    They'll not be able to sell Hourihane down the river like they've done with Collins and Clarke and get away with it with the fans .

    They've just inadvertently and potentially exposed themselves if Hourihane gets the gig full time , the fans aren't going to turn on Hourihane no matter what .

    Not in a million years .

    Good point but we must also bear in mind that Hourihane may not want the gig permanently if offered it.

    He's seen first hand what the head coach is up against with these owners. I seriously doubt whether he'd even want the job full time because it's simply not right with the way things are.

    The other managerial rookies you pointed out who have had success here did have a distinct advantage over Conor Hourihane or indeed any other prospective HC-they were all backed by the Chairman and board.

    Personally, I wouldn't like to see Hourihane try to cut his teeth here as a head coach on a permanent basis.

    Cast your mind back to Alan Shearer temporarily taking over at Newcastle in 2009 for the last few games to try and save them from Premiership relegation. He wasn't able to. Obviously he didn't tarnish his reputation as a Geordie legend but even he knew it wasn't ever going to be a permanent gig because the club at the time was being run by bad owners who were out of their depth and they were going downhill. Shearer only took the job through his love of the club and sentimentality. Perhaps Hourihane may feel the same as Shearer did- he obviously has a great player history and association with this club. There are similarities and sometimes these things are best left alone.

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    I sincerely hope that Hourihane is successful , we all love Conner and want him to do well , in the past when we have promoted from within we have done well , Hunter , Wilson, Ritchie and Heckingbottom all got us promoted and even Simon Davey got us to Wembley in the FA Cup and the fact that he has got a trial period is to his advantage but we all know why this change has been made and that is to deflect the blame, but mainly to try and sell some season tickets. I believe the rot has well and truly set in down at Grove St and we are in decline , maybe they might get lucky and it all turns out to be a masterstroke but I am afraid that there is no Santa Clause nor is there a Tooth Fairy and whilst ever this lot are running the show I think it will all end in tears .

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    I was never convinced that Clarke showed the necessary capability to take our club forward. We havent any players who have thrived and progressed under his leadership and that is fundamental to the model this ownership has adopted. We still havent found a playing style after 33 games and the home form is appalling. His team selections and substitutions have been baffling at times. He really didnt deserve the opportunity to continue any longer.

    Having said all of that, he was delivered a squad that was weaker than the one delivered to the previous coach, who in turn inherited a weaker squad than the coach before them and the cycle went on, described often as managed decline. I sympathise with all those coaches handed the poison chalice but its fair to say that the pattern of decline was obvious to see and I am sure all previous coaches including Clarke knew what they were signing up for.

    Its sad to say that until the owners rethink their strategy the situation at the club wont change and we will see rinse and repeat of the events of the last few years as far as manager and player turn over is concerned. Recruitment will follow a similar pattern and we will not end up in a better place as far as talent is concerned.

    I had hoped that the dilution of the % ownership share of Lee and the other rogue owners would lead to better investment, more ambition and a growth of the club. Clearly this hope was misguided and we are incurring increasing losses and their is little hope of things improving any time soon.

    Over to you now owners, time for a change of direction or is it more of the same? Note.... you are losing the fan base!

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    That interview..!!! Callum cooper is a ****

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    Hourihane is Sormaz BITCH

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