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    I'm torn on Maynard. On the one hand, promotion is there for the taking this season, and we're just not positive enough to take it. It has never really felt like a promotion campaign. On the other hand, we're somehow within touching distance of the auto spots, despite selling Crowley and Macca and having JJ out virtually all season, plus loads of other injuries that have meant we've never had a full-strength side out.

    Ultimately, we're not good enough to go up, and our home form is the killer. Like Curle, it may be the boring home performances that decide the club's position and the coach's fate. Still, I can't help but feel we'd be winning these games with our best players either fit or not sold. That's not Maynard's fault.

    I've never felt like Maynard had the character to get us promoted. It seems to be a necessary ingredient in turning good sides into great ones. Williams had it, Cooke at Chesterfield has it, I'm just not sure Maynard does. That said, he seems like a genuinely nice guy, and I'd truly love to be proven wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I'm torn on Maynard. On the one hand, promotion is there for the taking this season, and we're just not positive enough to take it. It has never really felt like a promotion campaign. On the other hand, we're somehow within touching distance of the auto spots, despite selling Crowley and Macca and having JJ out virtually all season, plus loads of other injuries that have meant we've never had a full-strength side out.

    Ultimately, we're not good enough to go up, and our home form is the killer. Like Curle, it may be the boring home performances that decide the club's position and the coach's fate. Still, I can't help but feel we'd be winning these games with our best players either fit or not sold. That's not Maynard's fault.

    I've never felt like Maynard had the character to get us promoted. It seems to be a necessary ingredient in turning good sides into great ones. Williams had it, Cooke at Chesterfield has it, I'm just not sure Maynard does. That said, he seems like a genuinely nice guy, and I'd truly love to be proven wrong.
    Whats this Love in for Cook all about ? Maynard has got us higher in the table and they are not exactly shy in spending fraudulently obtained cash on players are they ? Cook has had longer to build his team, Maynard is work in progress. Both teams have had injuries i presume our list is both longer in time and personnel.I think they have struggled with injuries from the xmas period.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66 View Post
    Whats this Love in for Cook all about ? Maynard has got us higher in the table and they are not exactly shy in spending fraudulently obtained cash on players are they ? Cook has had longer to build his team, Maynard is work in progress. Both teams have had injuries i presume our list is both longer in time and personnel.I think they have struggled with injuries from the xmas period.?
    It's not a love-in, but you can't deny his achievements. He's won four promotions with three different sides. How many other managers can claim that? Like it or not, he's a better manager than Maynard until proven otherwise. My point is that it often takes an extra ingredient to turn an OK manager/coach into one that wins promotions. Paul Cook has that ingredient, but it's not clear that Maynard does.

    Teams managed by coaches with that extra ingredient tend to find a way to win. They snatch victories from the jaws of defeat rather than the other way around. Again, like him or not, Parkinson at Wrexham has that ingredient. They seem to play awful football to the point that even their fans are fed up, but somehow they keep scraping wins and are looking good for a third straight promotion - yes, with ridiculous funds, but money doesn't guarantee success.
    Last edited by slack_pie; 24-03-2025 at 07:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    It's not a love-in, but you can't deny his achievements. He's won four promotions with three different sides. How many other managers can claim that? Like it or not, he's a better manager than Maynard until proven otherwise. My point is that it often takes an extra ingredient to turn an OK manager/coach into one that wins promotions. Paul Cook has that ingredient, but it's not clear that Maynard does.

    Teams managed by coaches with that extra ingredient tend to find a way to win. They snatch victories from the jaws of defeat rather than the other way around. Again, like him or not, Parkinson at Wrexham has that ingredient. They seem to play awful football to the point that even their fans are fed up, but somehow they keep scraping wins and are looking good for a third straight promotion - yes, with ridiculous funds, but money doesn't guarantee success.
    I have no problem with Paul Cook? he?s a very capable manager. However, comparing one manager who?s been in the game for the best part of 20 years with one in his infancy is mind boggling.
    Who knows how successful Maynard may or may not be.
    The bros have a clear identity of how they want the club to look and function. It?s very much taking a coach/player on who have scope to improve markedly. With both it may take several seasons and yes there will be failures along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notts78 View Post
    I have no problem with Paul Cook? he?s a very capable manager. However, comparing one manager who?s been in the game for the best part of 20 years with one in his infancy is mind boggling.
    Who knows how successful Maynard may or may not be.
    The bros have a clear identity of how they want the club to look and function. It?s very much taking a coach/player on who have scope to improve markedly. With both it may take several seasons and yes there will be failures along the way.
    I agree. That's why I said "until proven otherwise". Until a manager gets a team promoted, you just don't know if he's capable of it. It's more of a gamble than employing a manger who's won four promotions, regardless of time frames. Maynard may turn out to be a serial winner, but until he is, it's all just speculation.

    I'm not saying we go out and get a Paul Cook-type manager in. I'm just saying that being a good coach isn't always enough to push a team over the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66 View Post
    Whats this Love in for Cook all about ? Maynard has got us higher in the table and they are not exactly shy in spending fraudulently obtained cash on players are they ? Cook has had longer to build his team, Maynard is work in progress. Both teams have had injuries i presume our list is both longer in time and personnel.I think they have struggled with injuries from the xmas period.?
    I still believe that calling for your managers head when you are 2 points off automatics with 8 games to go is unbelievable but is seems that tactically Maynard struggles at times & it would be great if we could get someone with Cooks nous along side him. COYP

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