O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[BigFatPie]

In a bit of better news, Trump has had some potential effect on the upcoming Canadian election.

https://bsky.app/profile/leohickman..../3lmw6vr7z7c2a

Wow. Will be interesting if theres anything remotely similar in the Australian election.

[andy6025]

In a bit of better news, Trump has had some potential effect on the upcoming Canadian election.

https://bsky.app/profile/leohickman..../3lmw6vr7z7c2a

Wow. Will be interesting if theres anything remotely similar in the Australian election.

I am sceptical on how much of the Liberal Partys resurgence in the polls is a reaction to the election and behaviour of Donald Trump, rather than a reflection a several other factors that have recently upset the previous trajectory.

Our former prime minister, Justin Trudeau, who was so beloved outside of Canada but absolutely hated within, finally stepped aside. As your chart shows, he was getting absolute wrecked in the polls and he was taking the whole Party down with him.

Some of the reasons for his unpopularity were as follows: There is a very serious housing crisis here that has been getting exponentially worse with each successive year and they have been doing absolutely nothing about it - even go so far as to tell the public they will not bring housing prices down. Inflation, while according to official numbers has been coming back down closer to normal, people are not seeing it at the grocery stores. Or infrastructure has suffered from severe neglect and lack of investment. This is apparent in every major Canadian city, and Canadians are finally becoming aware that countries like China have far surpassed us in modernizing. This is coupled with the fact that we, like many western countries, have been bringing in record numbers of immigrants but just do not have the public infrastructure to support them and accommodate so many people. There has also been a significant shift in the wind in regards to identity politics issues. Trudeau was the champion of jumping on top of a Pride Parade float - this is now backfiring. As you may recall he was caught in photographs wearing black face more than once and is was probably the only global leader of his time who could get away with it. But his years of talking a lot while saying nothing are catching up with him. It was long evident before he realized it that be needed to go.

But nobody was ever really excited about the Cinservative Partys leading man. They only wanted to punish Trudeau.

This was exactly in the same veins as all the British politicians - Theresa May, the forgettable woman who lost the bet to the head of lettuce, Rishi Sunak and now Keir Starmer. Nobody really voted FOR any of these politicians, but rather did so begrudgingly because they liked the other option even less. Many would characterize American politics the exact same way. I would even go so far as to say very few people were die hard Trump or Harris fans, they just found their particular choice a bit less unpalatable than the other.

Enter Mark Carney, the new Liberal Prime Minister. Despite being a somewhat disgraced world banker of sorts, the Canadian media has pumped him up to be the second coming of Jesus. They’re really worked hard and spent a lot of money trying to pump him up in the eyes of Canadians. And according to official polls (which somehow are oddly much different than internal polls), people are buying it!

There was even a clear election campaign propaganda article the other day crediting Carney with orchestrating a buying and selling of US bonds that caused Trump to pause the tariffs. What it failed to mention, and made it so obviously clear that it is an election article, is that Carney had been PM for less than a month and still does not even hold a seat in the Canadian parliament… and yet he somehow significantly increased our bond yield within 3 weeks, and organized half of the world to do the same, then sold them off en mass. A poster above alluded to this same story.

Anyways… the election is right around the corner. If the polls are right The Liberals will have pulled one out of a hat. But I think it is far less to do with Trump and more the lack of options.

Like you guys had the choice between Sunak and Starmer, while the Americans had the choice between Trump and Harris.

[BigFatPie]

I am sceptical on how much of the Liberal Partys resurgence in the polls is a reaction to the election and behaviour of Donald Trump, rather than a reflection a several other factors that have recently upset the previous trajectory.

Our former prime minister, Justin Trudeau, who was so beloved outside of Canada but absolutely hated within, finally stepped aside. As your chart shows, he was getting absolute wrecked in the polls and he was taking the whole Party down with him.

Some of the reasons for his unpopularity were as follows: There is a very serious housing crisis here that has been getting exponentially worse with each successive year and they have been doing absolutely nothing about it - even go so far as to tell the public they will not bring housing prices down. Inflation, while according to official numbers has been coming back down closer to normal, people are not seeing it at the grocery stores. Or infrastructure has suffered from severe neglect and lack of investment. This is apparent in every major Canadian city, and Canadians are finally becoming aware that countries like China have far surpassed us in modernizing. This is coupled with the fact that we, like many western countries, have been bringing in record numbers of immigrants but just do not have the public infrastructure to support them and accommodate so many people. There has also been a significant shift in the wind in regards to identity politics issues. Trudeau was the champion of jumping on top of a Pride Parade float - this is now backfiring. As you may recall he was caught in photographs wearing black face more than once and is was probably the only global leader of his time who could get away with it. But his years of talking a lot while saying nothing are catching up with him. It was long evident before he realized it that be needed to go.

But nobody was ever really excited about the Cinservative Partys leading man. They only wanted to punish Trudeau.

This was exactly in the same veins as all the British politicians - Theresa May, the forgettable woman who lost the bet to the head of lettuce, Rishi Sunak and now Keir Starmer. Nobody really voted FOR any of these politicians, but rather did so begrudgingly because they liked the other option even less. Many would characterize American politics the exact same way. I would even go so far as to say very few people were die hard Trump or Harris fans, they just found their particular choice a bit less unpalatable than the other.

Enter Mark Carney, the new Liberal Prime Minister. Despite being a somewhat disgraced world banker of sorts, the Canadian media has pumped him up to be the second coming of Jesus. They’re really worked hard and spent a lot of money trying to pump him up in the eyes of Canadians. And according to official polls (which somehow are oddly much different than internal polls), people are buying it!

There was even a clear election campaign propaganda article the other day crediting Carney with orchestrating a buying and selling of US bonds that caused Trump to pause the tariffs. What it failed to mention, and made it so obviously clear that it is an election article, is that Carney had been PM for less than a month and still does not even hold a seat in the Canadian parliament… and yet he somehow significantly increased our bond yield within 3 weeks, and organized half of the world to do the same, then sold them off en mass. A poster above alluded to this same story.

Anyways… the election is right around the corner. If the polls are right The Liberals will have pulled one out of a hat. But I think it is far less to do with Trump and more the lack of options.

Like you guys had the choice between Sunak and Starmer, while the Americans had the choice between Trump and Harris.

The sort of *all politicians are the same* nonsense I would expect from a Putin apologist.

Also claiming that chart I linked to is to do with everything except Trump wanting to annex Canada suggests a denial of reality commensurate with many of your other posts.

[andy6025]

The sort of *all politicians are the same* nonsense I would expect from a Putin apologist.

Also claiming that chart I linked to is to do with everything except Trump wanting to annex Canada suggests a denial of reality commensurate with many of your other posts.

Your chart clearly shows that the flip between the Conservatives and Liberals occurred exactly when Carney was elected at the Liberal Party leadership convention and sworn in as Prime Minister 5 days later, rather than almost 2 months before when Trump was sworn in, or 4 months prior when he was elected. Had Trudeau stayed on as Liberal leader this flip would never have happened. As I explained before, Trudeaus unpopularity dragged the Liberals deep into the mud. Their miraculous resurgence has nothing to do Trump.

[Lullapie]

At the weekend Joe Biden was officially diagnosed with what could be construed as terminal prostate cancer. A horrible diagnosis to have and I'm sure we all hope he gets the best care and treatment to try and prolong or defeat the awful illness.

On a non-personal level though, it does open up how many lies did the Democratic Party hierarchy tell to the US public (and indeed the world). We're not talking about Joe Bloggs here, we are talking about President Joe Biden.

The rats are already leaving the sinking ship, with Democrat-journalist Jake Tapper trying his best to eek a few more dollars out of Joe Biden's suffering, by releasing his book, Original Sin, remarking about how those in the Party were aware of Joe's mental decline BEFORE he stood for election in 2020. However, Tapper was adamant on CNN right up until Trump won, that Biden's cognitive function was fine. Another hypocrite.

There's a pattern emerging in the world, where when the left is found out to be telling lies or that they have done something wrong, to call it a right-wing conspiracy theory. Remember Trump being elected through Russian money? Remember Hunter Biden's fake Russian laptop? Remember the British anti-asylum riots being those of the far-right. For those where I live, there is still the video of Jacinda Ardern 'speaking' to the New Zealand public, telling them to only believe what she and her government told them. She also tried to get through a 'hate speech' act where the government decided what was hate speech - a la Joseph Goebbels.

The left control so much of the media and hence control the narrative. Trump added to the English language the expression 'fake news'. You don't see it, until you see it, then you start to question everything that you are fed through the media.

More Democrat lies will emerge as time moves on. Lets hope next time they get into power, that the media offers up more scrutiny to prevent this from happening again.

Jill Biden is starting to look like a real life Lady Macbeth.

[SwalePie]

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Trump added to the English language the expression 'fake news'. You don't see it, until you see it, then you start to question everything that you are fed through the media.

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

[andy6025]

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

While I will enthusiastically grant that Donald Trump is far from a pedlar of the truth and that he has a tendency to make sh?*t up at a whim, I beg to know who the hell you
find trustworthy?

Take this nifty little conglomeration of clips as an example. Almost nobody at all in the political sphere, left or right, and the media, left or right, seemed to question the ridiculously absurd chorus of anchors and expert talking heads claiming that Russia blew up the Nordstream pipeline. Only one guest who appeared in the MAM, professor Jeffrey Sachs, said that it was clearly the United States whoodunnit, but he was immediately shut down. Anyone else who also might have claimed it was not Russia was let nowhere near the airwaves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZyKY...VsaW5lIGNsaXBz

So, how can we trust anything they say when they are either such unabashed liars who will tell the public whatever the CIA wants them to say, or they are so laughably stupid that they cannot recognize how dumb their claims are?

Who in the MSM, pray tell, is trustworthy?

[Lullapie]

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right. The main argument at the moment is that much of the stuff peddled by the Democrats in the last five years as being fact, is only now being proved to be rubbish in the simplest sense or state funded propaganda in a more scary way.

It's not true to say that Trump is greatest root of conspiracy theories in recent times, unless you believe everything that he says is 100% accurate when he says it. It just shows that someone either literally believes all his comments to be true when he says them, which makes them exceptionally gullible (which I very much doubt in your case) or they know them to be Trump just blustering, but then show faux disgust to appear offended.

You only have to look at the 2024 US Election in depth to see how much the Democrats created conspiracies, which was in relation to their huge marketing budget, compared to the Republicans.

[Jampie]

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right. The main argument at the moment is that much of the stuff peddled by the Democrats in the last five years as being fact, is only now being proved to be rubbish in the simplest sense or state funded propaganda in a more scary way.

What are these things the democrats have said are fact that are lies?

Or state funded propaganda?

It's not true to say that Trump is greatest root of conspiracy theories in recent times, unless you believe everything that he says is 100% accurate when he says it. It just shows that someone either literally believes all his comments to be true when he says them, which makes them exceptionally gullible (which I very much doubt in your case) or they know them to be Trump just blustering, but then show faux disgust to appear offended.

You only have to look at the 2024 US Election in depth to see how much the Democrats created conspiracies, which was in relation to their huge marketing budget, compared to the Republicans.

What are these democrat conspiracies?

[Elite_Pie]

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right.

Ah, another of your fair and balanced reviews from the unbiased centre! Except that as usual you go on to slate the Democrats and defend Trump.

You have always supported far right views and clearly hate the left. Stop trying to pretend you're balanced, it embarrasses you, although it does add a bit of comedy value!