O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[Lullapie]

At the weekend Joe Biden was officially diagnosed with what could be construed as terminal prostate cancer. A horrible diagnosis to have and I'm sure we all hope he gets the best care and treatment to try and prolong or defeat the awful illness.

On a non-personal level though, it does open up how many lies did the Democratic Party hierarchy tell to the US public (and indeed the world). We're not talking about Joe Bloggs here, we are talking about President Joe Biden.

The rats are already leaving the sinking ship, with Democrat-journalist Jake Tapper trying his best to eek a few more dollars out of Joe Biden's suffering, by releasing his book, Original Sin, remarking about how those in the Party were aware of Joe's mental decline BEFORE he stood for election in 2020. However, Tapper was adamant on CNN right up until Trump won, that Biden's cognitive function was fine. Another hypocrite.

There's a pattern emerging in the world, where when the left is found out to be telling lies or that they have done something wrong, to call it a right-wing conspiracy theory. Remember Trump being elected through Russian money? Remember Hunter Biden's fake Russian laptop? Remember the British anti-asylum riots being those of the far-right. For those where I live, there is still the video of Jacinda Ardern 'speaking' to the New Zealand public, telling them to only believe what she and her government told them. She also tried to get through a 'hate speech' act where the government decided what was hate speech - a la Joseph Goebbels.

The left control so much of the media and hence control the narrative. Trump added to the English language the expression 'fake news'. You don't see it, until you see it, then you start to question everything that you are fed through the media.

More Democrat lies will emerge as time moves on. Lets hope next time they get into power, that the media offers up more scrutiny to prevent this from happening again.

Jill Biden is starting to look like a real life Lady Macbeth.

[SwalePie]

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Trump added to the English language the expression 'fake news'. You don't see it, until you see it, then you start to question everything that you are fed through the media.

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

[andy6025]

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

While I will enthusiastically grant that Donald Trump is far from a pedlar of the truth and that he has a tendency to make sh?*t up at a whim, I beg to know who the hell you
find trustworthy?

Take this nifty little conglomeration of clips as an example. Almost nobody at all in the political sphere, left or right, and the media, left or right, seemed to question the ridiculously absurd chorus of anchors and expert talking heads claiming that Russia blew up the Nordstream pipeline. Only one guest who appeared in the MAM, professor Jeffrey Sachs, said that it was clearly the United States whoodunnit, but he was immediately shut down. Anyone else who also might have claimed it was not Russia was let nowhere near the airwaves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NSZyKY...VsaW5lIGNsaXBz

So, how can we trust anything they say when they are either such unabashed liars who will tell the public whatever the CIA wants them to say, or they are so laughably stupid that they cannot recognize how dumb their claims are?

Who in the MSM, pray tell, is trustworthy?

[Lullapie]

Yes that's Trump's comms strategy in a nutshell. He is perhaps the greatest root cause of the proliferation of conspiracy theories and culture-war gaslighting in recent times.

The final part above is the problem. You start to question both the dubious sources and the trustworthy ones until you become so distrustful that you don't know what to believe any more...so you believe nothing but him and his people's BS. He depends on that.

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right. The main argument at the moment is that much of the stuff peddled by the Democrats in the last five years as being fact, is only now being proved to be rubbish in the simplest sense or state funded propaganda in a more scary way.

It's not true to say that Trump is greatest root of conspiracy theories in recent times, unless you believe everything that he says is 100% accurate when he says it. It just shows that someone either literally believes all his comments to be true when he says them, which makes them exceptionally gullible (which I very much doubt in your case) or they know them to be Trump just blustering, but then show faux disgust to appear offended.

You only have to look at the 2024 US Election in depth to see how much the Democrats created conspiracies, which was in relation to their huge marketing budget, compared to the Republicans.

[Jampie]

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right. The main argument at the moment is that much of the stuff peddled by the Democrats in the last five years as being fact, is only now being proved to be rubbish in the simplest sense or state funded propaganda in a more scary way.

What are these things the democrats have said are fact that are lies?

Or state funded propaganda?

It's not true to say that Trump is greatest root of conspiracy theories in recent times, unless you believe everything that he says is 100% accurate when he says it. It just shows that someone either literally believes all his comments to be true when he says them, which makes them exceptionally gullible (which I very much doubt in your case) or they know them to be Trump just blustering, but then show faux disgust to appear offended.

You only have to look at the 2024 US Election in depth to see how much the Democrats created conspiracies, which was in relation to their huge marketing budget, compared to the Republicans.

What are these democrat conspiracies?

[Elite_Pie]

I believe all sides talk bull$hit. I'm not bothered who says it, left or right.

Ah, another of your fair and balanced reviews from the unbiased centre! Except that as usual you go on to slate the Democrats and defend Trump.

You have always supported far right views and clearly hate the left. Stop trying to pretend you're balanced, it embarrasses you, although it does add a bit of comedy value!

[SwalePie]

US Trade Court blocks Trump Tariffs

"A US federal court has blocked President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs, in a major blow to a key part of his economic policies.

The Court of International Trade ruled that an emergency law invoked by the White House does not give the president unilateral authority to impose tariffs on nearly every country...."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgdj9kyero

[Jampie]

US Trade Court blocks Trump Tariffs

"A US federal court has blocked President Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs, in a major blow to a key part of his economic policies.

The Court of International Trade ruled that an emergency law invoked by the White House does not give the president unilateral authority to impose tariffs on nearly every country...."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgdj9kyero

Yeah been waiting for this. He'll take it all the way to the supreme court, who, based on what the actual law says, should also ditch his tariffs, but given how they've behaved since his last presidency... who the hell knows how they'll rule. The whole country's gone insane.

So we could seriously have the situation later this year where Trump's tariffs are just gone, while all the reciprocal tariffs other countries have put up are still in place, and his "government" is in the brilliant position of having to politely ask for those to be removed, without so much as a whiff of a bargaining chip or a stick... and asking this of a whole slew of governments and countries they've just offended and p'd off.

I'm sure his supporters will say this is all part of his grand master plan. Including the recession that will be announced at the end of this quarter.

[MarcusCole]

Yeah been waiting for this. He'll take it all the way to the supreme court, who, based on what the actual law says, should also ditch his tariffs, but given how they've behaved since his last presidency... who the hell knows how they'll rule. The whole country's gone insane.

So we could seriously have the situation later this year where Trump's tariffs are just gone, while all the reciprocal tariffs other countries have put up are still in place, and his "government" is in the brilliant position of having to politely ask for those to be removed, without so much as a whiff of a bargaining chip or a stick... and asking this of a whole slew of governments and countries they've just offended and p'd off.

I'm sure his supporters will say this is all part of his grand master plan. Including the recession that will be announced at the end of this quarter.

I also was expecting this. It is for congress to set taxes and tariffs not the President. But when you look at the things Biden was doing in contravention of the Constitutional powers it is a common issue with abuse of powers from both sides.

[Jampie]

I also was expecting this. It is for congress to set taxes and tariffs not the President. But when you look at the things Biden was doing in contravention of the Constitutional powers it is a common issue with abuse of powers from both sides.

What was Biden doing that contravened the constitution? And why wasn't it challenged in court if so?